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Living to 200 in a 25 Year-Old’s Body, Helping 1 Billion People Extend Healthy Lifespan, Wearables, Aging as a Disease, Genetic Engineering, AI, Creativity and Responsibility with Longevity Investor and Innovator Sergey Young

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Sergey is also the author of the recently launched book The Science And Technology of Growing Young which, based purely on pre-orders, already reached No. 1 in three Amazon categories.

Sergey believes that we must take our health in our own hands. Sergey is striving towards replacing the “sick care” paradigm of the current healthcare system with a model which sees aging as a disease or an important risk factor and invests in the exciting fields of gene therapy, longevity drugs, and groundbreaking organ growth operations.

In this episode, Sergey draws together his wide-ranging experience in finance, entrepreneurship and health to educate us on the current developments in the longevity space and provide us with exciting tips and hacks to improve our healthspan. Sergey also discusses misconceptions around longevity, sketches the impressive future of healthcare, talks about his morning routines, teaches us how to say “no”, reveals the inspiring words that changed his life, and much, much more.

About the episode & our guest

Sergey Young is a highly-influential visionary in the longevity space. A longevity investor, founder of the longevity vision fund, Sergey is an innovator with the ambitious goals of living to 200 years old, and helping over 1 billion people to extend their healthspan and improve their lives.

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PODCAST EPISODE SHOW NOTES

  • Sergey explains how the wake up call that started his longevity journey was being prescribed medication for the rest of his life to treat high cholesterol and thinking that can’t be right. With this new-found interest in longevity, Sergey suggested to friends to go for health check-ups which led to some early cancer diagnoses. The gratitude of these friends for Sergey’s life-saving advice convinced him that longevity was his calling. (02.51)

  • Sergey crossed paths with Tony Robbins and Peter Diamandis and, together, founded the X Prize Foundation, a global technological competition to solve the world’s biggest problems. Sergey details how the X Prize uses the money of investors to challenge teams from all over the world to find solutions to global problems, fostering innovation and advancements in the process - the creation of Richard Branson’s Virgin Galactic serving as a prime example. Sergey shares his dream of an age reversal X Prize, and reveals that he set up the Longevity Investment Fund to bring the best of science and technology to the longevity space. (05.23)

  • The psychological aspect of aging is important to Sergey, and he outlines studies that show the life-changing power of believing that one is younger. Sergey explains that his goal of living to 200 is reasonable given technological breakthroughs and the outlook for longevity medicine. Sergey also reveals the motivations for writing The Science And Technology of Growing Young - removing the confusion in the longevity space and outlining why much greater investment should be made. (14.00)

  • Sergey and Claudia wearables, from continuous glucose monitors to Apple Watches. Sergey predicts that the biggest players in the future of healthcare will be the Big Tech companies. It’s about time for fax to be replaced! Sergey explains how algorithms in wearables like Whoop and Apple Watch can now benefit our lives, and how Vitality UK Insurance uses these technologies. Inspired by the Muse meditation and neurofeedback wearable, Sergey sees brain work as the final frontier of healthcare research and technology. (18.17)

  • Sergey talks about his experiences with neurofeedback and the beautiful effect it has. The important lesson for Sergey is that we don’t have to wait any longer. We have the tools now to optimize our body and mind. For Sergey, the key lesson is that there is no silver bullet when it comes to age-related diseases, the answer will be a complex of different treatments. (26.38)

  • Taking genetic factors into account, Sergey talks about what it takes to become a centenarian and beyond. The lack of medical tools in the last 100 years has biased aging towards people with the “longevity genes”, but this is changing. Slowing the aging process involves fascinating developments in cellular aging and telomere attrition, but bigger problems in our attitude to aging and way of living persist. We have created the science and technology to extend our lives, but we haven’t created the lives we want to extend. That’s why ⅔ of people in the UK do not want to extend their lives. (30.39)

  • How are the next big changes going to come? The limitations of government regulation and approval are discussed. With the onset of the Covid pandemic, telemedicine exploded and proved that quick change is possible when the will or need is there. Recognising aging as a disease or an important risk factor would be a game-changing move. (39.15)

  • Sergey sets himself up for a successful day by spending some time alone and some time with his children. A plan to start with the to-do list item that you have been putting off is essential. On top of this, meditation and movement provide the brain and body with the necessary nutrients for a successful day. A walk in the forest is the perfect combination of these. (44.33)

  • Sergey outlines his solution to the demands and time pressures of daily life - keeping a clear picture of your mission in mind and prioritizing for this. Sergey’s fascinating resolution is to create a virtual avatar with whom he will share future tasks. Sergey expounds the power of “deep work” - harnessing attention and applying it to specific tasks. He also provides us with an impressive example of the art of saying “no”! Sergey shares the inspiring story of the moment, and the piece of advice, that changed his life. Finally, Sergey spells out the advancements that will create the future of longevity and health. (48.40)


“ Imagine, every morning I wake up and I have 3/4 of my life ahead of me. There's so many things I can do in this world. It's been beautiful.”

“If we are taking care of our cars, with computers, with sensors. Our body and our mind, you know, are much more important.”

“Like, in the US, 60% of the data transfer among different healthcare providers, not within one, but like among different healthcare providers, is done by fax. When was the last time you've actually seen a fax machine? “

“I do think that in the next 2, 3, 5 years from now, we're going to see more wearables which can catch even, like, brainwork portion of our health indicators as well.”

“We are at the point of our evolution when we still cannot really reverse aging significantly, but we can influence the pace of the aging processes in your body. “

“we have enough resources on this planet to feed everyone. The problem is we are really inefficient in terms of distribution of these resources.”

“I think, in 10 ,20 years from now, the biggest constraints to life extension, is not going to be science, is not going to be technology. It's going to be human ethics, and regulation.”

“We have created the science and technology to extend our life. Well, we haven't created life that we want to extend. “

“ I actually believe that humans don't need anything to meditate successfully. Probably with the exception of a, kind of, silent room, and some time for yourself. “

“When I talk about mission, it's actually your contribution to the world. It's not like, you know, I want to become billionaire, like, will this guy help me to become a billionaire? Money and personal wealth is probably an important resource, but would not really make you happy.”

“My rule is, I'm taking 100% responsibility for everything happen in my life. Even if this is other people done something good or bad to me, I'm taking responsibility that I haven't recognized there is the risk there. Or I afford myself to demonstrate very unnecessary emotions. Or I was not in a resourceful stage. So my mind, in the course of last 31 years, became super creative of finding the way to interpret every situation in my life with a situation where I'm 100% responsible. “


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Claudia von Boeselager: Welcome to the Longevity & Lifestyle Podcast, Sergey, such a pleasure to have you on today.
Sergey Young: Hi Claudia. Hi everyone. I'm so excited to be here with you today.
Claudia von Boeselager: Thank you so much. And I believe we share a very exciting view about the transformational future of longevity. So very excited to dig into that today.

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PODCAST EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

And I'd love to start with your mission Sergey, and that's probably one of the most ambitious missions on the planet, but I love that. You're a longevity investor and a leading visionary in the longevity space. And your incredible mission includes to extend the healthy lifespan of at least 1 billion people.
Can you tell us a little bit more about that?

Sergey Young: Well, where do I start? I think the journey, like our longevity journey and our interest to health, always start with the personal troubles. That's the unfortunate reality of, like, so many of us. You have a wake-up call. It's usually significant deterioration of your own health, or the people that you love.
So when you, like, discover this thing called health, in the world. So for me, it's actually started with high cholesterol, like a problem, back in 2014. And I was, kind of, okay with that. But then doctors told me I need to take medication every day till the rest of my life. And this is where I felt really uncomfortable.

At this time, I think I was 43 back in 2014, and I thought like, you know, I'm a healthy man. Why would they need to take medication every day for another 40 years? At this point of time, I thought I'm going to be living somewhere around 80, 85 years. Where I, right now it's a much more ambitious figure.

So I started to discover this whole world of longevity and taking care of my health. And I was pretty successful. I decreased my cholesterol in the course of, four to five months. I started to share this experience. And frankly speaking, what I did, I just pushed a lot of my friends to do their health checkups, medical screening. Some of them discovered early stage cancer. They fully recovered because it was caught at such an early stage.

And, unlike 20, 40 years ago, when cancer was a kiss of death, today, I mean, you can recover if you've got it at stage one. And for some of the cancer types, recovery rates are anywhere between 93 and 100%. So they all called me up and said: "Sergei, you saved my life." After you've got a few calls like that, you're like, oh my goodness. Well, this is exactly, you feel so good.

Claudia von Boeselager: I'm a lifesaver!

Sergey Young: Yeah, this is exactly why I was born. And this is what I can do for the world. So my background, I'm from a very poor family. I was born, not in the middle of nowhere, like in the end of nowhere. My hometown was closer to Japan rather than to regional capital Vladivostok in the former USSR.

And I had to work like through whole of my life after I turned 17, studying full-time and working full-time. And if you do it for decades, you're going to think the money is your ultimate measure of success. And you start, yeah, it's almost like professional or career deformation. So these few things and cases actually put me up on the right trajectory. And I thought, okay, I'm going to change the life of 1 million people.
So then I met two guys, Tony Robbins and Peter Diamandis, and they both are very
ambitious. So we are actually-

Claudia von Boeselager: Yes.

Sergey Young: Working together in the context of the X Prize Foundation, launching global technological competition to solve world's biggest problems. And, in particular, Peter was like: "Sergey, just 1 million? Why is that?"
So I just added three zeros to that, and this is great. And it feels great to dedicate a lot of your time and, actually, money and other resources to that. But also I think having such an ambitious mission gives you always, like, the impact filter. So when you're trying to do something, you're trying to maximize your impact.

That's been actually a healthy paradigm to live with. And I really enjoyed my last few years. So I decided if I want to change the space, I need to set up a relatively small investment fund. So I set up Longevity Investment Fund. In financial industry terms, 100 million dollars is not a lot, but for longevity it's a lot.
So we're supporting entrepreneurs, scientists, innovators, who basically would like to change the current state of the health care, which some people call sick care, and bring the best from science and from technology to extend healthy and happy proportion of our life. So that's the story.

Claudia von Boeselager: Oh, amazing. I really, really love it. And, I've just spent actually a weekend with Tony Robbins. I did a world summit-

Sergey Young: Oh, really?

Claudia von Boeselager: Thing as well. Virtually, digitally. Yeah, exactly.

Sergey Young: Amazing guy. He's in the book as well. He was one of the big supporters of my mission and what we do in this place. And this whole Sergey Young thing was created just following his example and the example of Peter. People who dedicated themselves to changing the world, helping others to become, like, a better version of themselves.
And once you start to give more, rather than take, your life will be completely different. So that was my learning. I'm so happy I did that.

Claudia von Boeselager: Yeah, so incredible. And I spent my weekend also listening to this. I follow Peter's work as well. And, you know, what's the moonshot? How do you affect a billion people?
Sergey Young: Yeah, yeah yeah, well that's my

Claudia von Boeselager: moonshot, yeah.
Yeah. So really-

Sergey Young: Transformative purpose.

Claudia von Boeselager: Really love it. We share that as well, Sergey. Amazing.
And I'd like you to just touch a little bit more into the X Prize, your development sponsor for this. Maybe you can explain to people not familiar with the X Prize, what it is, which I think is, it's a really fantastic thing. And what you hope to achieve.

Sergey Young: It is.
So X Prize Foundation is the foundation, I think we started in 1996 or so, with the first competition. But, like, what it does, you take a certain amount of money from someone, like, in two cases, for example, it was Elon Musk. So you'd take $15 million from Elon Musk. You go to the world and say:

 "The first team who's going to bring solution to this particular problem will get this prize." And then you have 2/3/400 teams from 50+ countries competing for the same prize, but it's bringing different innovations, interventions, discoveries, technologies, to solve any particular problems. And the first X Prize, we actually know today, is a Virgin Galactic. The first X Prize competition was to create a private spaceship who would, twice within the week, will go to space and come back to earth. Yeah. So then Richard Branson, who was one of the supporters of this X Prize competition, bought the design of the spaceship for Virgin Galactic and created $1 billion plus business on the back of that.

And we've done many things with many famous people. The largest X Prize competition, we actually launched early this year, 2021, and it's called Carbon Removal X Prize. Elon Musk gave a hundred million dollars to create the technology to utilize CO2 from the atmosphere and convert it to the minimum viable product. So that's just a lot of fun. And I always had a dream to do age reversal X Prize to create this same competition. but in the field of age reversal, to promote development of, you know, different science and technologies to fight age-related diseases.

So first time we spoke, I think it was back in 2018, we spoke with Peter, and Peter was like, you know, Sergey, we've been discussing this for 12 years. We were not completely successful. I'm not sure if this is possible. And I was responding, it was right after Peter's presentation at one of the seminars, and I'm like: "Peter, you're like the last man on Earth to tell me that something is impossible."
Exactly.

Yeah, you're right. Speak to a few guys in the field and let's see if we can come up with something.
So I've sponsored development phase of it with my personal money for the last two years. And right now we're about to launch competition. So what winning team would need to do is to demonstrate the age-reversal effect of lifestyle change protocol, or intervention, or the drug, or the technology, or scientific discovery that they will test on a group of people in a number of particular countries. And it should be regulatory approved. So it shouldn't be something risky, which goes against the authorities and the approved practice as well.

And what we're going to do, we just use a number of biomarkers and it's basically biological clocks, to measure biological age of, you know, all these people, right in the beginning of this 12-month trial, and-

Claudia von Boeselager: Yeah.

Sergey Young: Right in the end. And we have a lot of beautiful minds on board, in a design team. Like David Sinclair, the author of Lifespan, the professor in Harvard Medical School. Our very good friend and supporter George Church, the men behind human genome sequencing. Steve Horvath, inventor of the first biological clocks, epigenetic clocks, in 2013. So it's a beautiful team. And with their input and how we've managed to design a competition which still fits the regulatory environment, because the risk of this experiment is extremely high because we're talking about human lives, but we still would like to move it.

We're going to launch the X Prize end of 2021, early 2022. And we're currently in discussion with a few sponsors to support this competition. But, overall, it's been an exciting journey and there's so many things that we can do today. In the course of eight weeks of change in physical exercise protocol, diet, and supplementation, or sleep as well three things.

Claudia von Boeselager: Sleep, yeah. Big thing.
Sergey Young: And they've managed to reverse aging by three years, in the course of eight weeks. So it's-

Claudia von Boeselager: Incredible.

Sergey Young: Yeah, well, it's amazing how many things we can do with the lifestyle changes. Just simply push in, you know, all these three dimensions. And I'm a big fan of it. Like, I mean, you obviously need to stay on a longevity bridge before near horizon of longevity innovation will bring us all these technologies that we're investing in, in the next 5, 10, 15 years. But like, even today, you can reverse aging and you can be younger. And I love that.
I really

Claudia von Boeselager: love it too. And I'm living proof, if you will, because I, two years ago, also, as you said, everything starts with a health experience, had bad health.
And I recently did my GlycanAge test, which is also a biological test, and it came back as 11 years younger than my chronological age. So I was very excited about that. And now I'm challenging myself to see if I can get to, sort of, 15+ years younger. Let's see. I'll be growing backwards as Benjamin Button did, as well.

But I think that that's the beauty of it, right? So there's small hacks that you can do, that everyone can do, obviously depending on the medical condition, and obviously consulting with their physician beforehand, but to completely change your life. And I think, you know, if people really think about what is the alternative, you know, taking a pill every day for your life.

I've had a doctor tell me that I have chronic asthma. I don't have asthma, and was giving me three different steroid inhalers to take every day for the rest of my life. And it's just incredible. And I, you know, there are many wonderful doctors out there. And there are many wonderful things as well, but this is also my remit as well, that people really understand and I love having this conversation, that there are alternatives. And they're fun, they're easy, they're social. You can do it with friends. You can do it with family. It's simple. You just go to your local supermarket or you can order it online. You know, it's not like life-changing, really difficult things. They're just little tweaks and hacks that make such an impact.

Sergey Young: I agree. And it's so enjoyable. In the end of this one or two years, you're full of energy. You have a lot of plans and a lot of dreams. I'm a big fan of the psychological aspect of aging as well. There were a number of studies which says, just believing that you are younger, makes you younger.

Claudia von Boeselager: Yeah.

Sergey Young: And there's a chapter, well, it's actually a sub-chapter in my book, called Think And Grow Young, which covers the psychological aspects of that.
So like, just having your target age radically below that you are today helps a lot. So, like, my mantra, I'm 49, and my mantra, I'm going to be living 200 years in the body of a 25 years old man.

Claudia von Boeselager: I love it.

Sergey Young: And, like, I was experimenting with this for a month. And then in the end of it, you just discover completely different version of yourself.
You just, you know, full of energy, full of dreams. Imagine, every morning I wake up and I have 3/4 of my life ahead of me. There's so many things I can do in this world. It's been beautiful.

Claudia von Boeselager: I love it. I think I need to maybe make my goal a bit more ambitious. I'm at 120, and people already look at me like I'm crazy.
You're up to 200 years old. So I'll see you on the other side.

Sergey Young: Yeah. It's a completely responsible promise today. Like, the oldest person on Earth, she's been living to 122 years. That's a beautiful French woman. She died back in 122. She had a lot of funny stories in her life. So again, it's in the book as well, but, nevertheless, I do believe that we shouldn't be looking at the past to draw the aspiration for the future.

Claudia von Boeselager: Correct.

Sergey Young: And obviously with all these breakthroughs that are already available, or will be available in the next five, 10 years, we'll break this sound barrier of 122 years, like the maximum lifespan on Earth. And it's going to be longer or significantly longer for all of us.
So, like, 200 years, it's just a way to catch the conversation and attention of the public.
My favorite piece of the book is actually bonus chapter, like, what you can do today. Like in majority of cases, you start this conversation and people go: "Oh, Sergey, mymom told me that."

Okay. So you need to excite people about technological breakthroughs, like how the future will look like. And then gradually you just come in you know, back to today saying, well, how about changing your life today? And I thought it's just a little bit more efficient communication strategy, rather ,than discussing the diet physical exercise, and meditation, from the first minute.

Claudia von Boeselager: Yeah. Perfect. Let's talk a little bit more about your book, The Science And Technology Of Growing Young. First of all, congratulations on writing a book. Not everyone gets that far, so really fantastic. And I also love the title. I think it sums it up really nicely.
What was the purpose behind writing the book? What was your vision when you sat down to start writing it?

Sergey Young: Yeah, so, well, a number of things. One, in the Longevity Vision Fund will look we're at 200 companies a year, and we allow to lapse to the minds and the thoughts of entrepreneurs and the greatest scientists.
And I thought I just need to share it with the public. It's such a unique access that we enjoy and through our fund. And again, there are very few funds investing in Longevity technologies today. So it's a very rare knowledge, and I wanted to share it with the audience. So that's number one.

Number two, longevity became such a confusing information space. I think it's always been, like, but recently it's been a problem. Like, today you read, you need to do your stem cells injection, like immediately. And then tomorrow you read, well, it's FDA, hasn't approved that. So you just need to wait. It's very risky. And then this happens with everything like putting butter in your coffee, coffee is right or wrong.
Like, blueberries are great. And then next week blueberries are eroding each-

Claudia von Boeselager: Toxic.

Sergey Young: Yeah, it's toxic. And the acid from the blueberries erodes your stomach from inside. So a lot of people just going into-

Claudia von Boeselager: They're confused.

Sergey Young: Like, if this is important enough, this will find me through the medical system. Otherwise I'm not going to bother because it's really confusing.
So I thought, I just need to bring a more balanced view because we have a lot of brilliant scientists in our scientific advisory board, or in the companies that we're investing in. We have, like, access to the best technologies. And I'm doing a lot of experiments. I'm not a biohacker, I actually am a pretty conservative guy, but, like, whenever I have an access to something really modern, you know, I'm just doing that-

Claudia von Boeselager: Jumping on it.
You're one level down from the biohacker. We've to coin a term, Sergey.

Sergey Young: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true, by the way. And I kind of thought, well, this is what I need to share with the public. And I also do believe that we are so focused today on, like, a negative side of the healthcare system today. So we actually forgot, and we don't really take time to celebrate, you know, all these advances.

Like, well, think about gene editing and gene therapy. 30 years ago, it took 13 years and $3 billion in US to sequence human genome. In fact, they actually wanted to stop the experiment after the first two years because they managed to sequence like 1% of the human genome. So they quickly calculated that, well, it's going to be, what, 100+ years to do that. And, funny enough, and luckily, the computing power has been more and more affordable, and the cost of it has been democratizing itself. And they finally completed, well, these days you can sequence human genome, like the most important parts, in the course of a few hours.

And it costs $200. Or, 30 years ago, the gene editing in the form of, well, almost like the only technology which was available these days, which is Crispr, like a genetic scissors. It's been available only to the people who had nothing to lose on this planet. They were terminally ill. They were about to die and they become like-

Claudia von Boeselager: The guinea pig.

Sergey Young: They were the only people. Yeah, the Guinea pigs.

Claudia von Boeselager: Exactly. Like a last resort, right?

Sergey Young: Well, right now, we're all participating in a gene therapy experiment on a global scale. I do believe it's a positive experiment, but, like, Moderna, AstraZeneca, well these are all the outcome of gene therapy. So that's amazing. And this is what's happened in the last 30 years and it's going to be more and more like, our wearable. I'm, like, full of, full of wearables.

Claudia von Boeselager: I've got the trackers, yeah.

Sergey Young: Oura ring here. Continuous glucose monitor.

Claudia von Boeselager: The Levels Health, okay, yeah, that does as well.
So,

Sergey Young: like, if we are taking care of our cars, with computers, with sensors. Our body and our mind, you know, are much more important. We should do that. So, and then, watch the wearable space. All these Apple Watch, Fitbits, Whoops, will become our personalized healthcare devices. And I think with the addition of, like, measuring glucose in the blood, and measuring our blood pressure in the next couple of years, I think Samsung Watch already launched this feature. And it's going to be 90 to 95% of the indicators that we would like to measure on a regular basis.

And Apple Watch just, I'm fascinated what Apple is doing in the healthcare space. It's already saved so many lives. And it's going to continue. And I do think that the change in healthcare will come not from old players, doing kind of new things. The change in the healthcare, and our ability to manage our health, to extend our healthy and happy life, will come from the new players doing completely new things. From disruption.

Like, so the biggest healthcare companies on Earth in the end of this decade, going to be called Google, Amazon, Microsoft, and Apple. I'm not the biggest fan of Big Tech. I do think there's just a lot of ethical issues around their domination in so many parts of our life. But, like, if you think about healthcare, I mean, we would need to have disruptive forces to change them. You know, otherwise, we will continue to use this symptomatic, reactive, not digitalized, version of healthcare.
Like, in the US, 60% of the data transfer among different healthcare providers, not within one, but like among different healthcare providers, is done by fax. When was the last time you've actually seen a fax machine?

Claudia von Boeselager: We used to have one at home. My parents did.

Sergey Young: Ah, really? Okay.

Claudia von Boeselager: But it doesn't make any sense. I agree. I mean, why aren't hospitals completely digitalized? I mean, just think of the whole process optimization, what can be done, but having the records. And someone who's lived in nine different countries, and I've seen doctors around the world, I have medical reports from Madrid. I've got different ones from the US, you know, this is all me, right? Why is it not in one dossier? And I think that there's such optimization potential there because our health is also what our historical levels were and where we are now, right? You need that benchmark. So I think that, yeah, as you're saying, there's such exciting things.
What are some of your favorite devices? So you pointed to a few that you are wearing.

Sergey Young: Yeah, for me, like, I'm experimenting with continuous glucose monitor and I'm pretty healthy in this, kind of, regard, I was just trying to manage the risk, but I really enjoy just literally measuring the impact of different foods and drinks, which it has on my glucose level. And some of the realizations I know it sounds naive for the average human being. But, like, you always put like vegetables and fruits in the same category. It's like mother nature produced, it's super healthy, but like, my reaction to fruits like watermelon, melon, even to papaya, you know, some other things, it's just enormous, like the spike is just really enormous.
So I'm really overreacting-

Claudia von Boeselager: And it's so individual, which is so, it's so amazing to be able to see it as well, because the next person, it mightn't have any impact as well.

Sergey Young: Oh, exactly. Yeah.

Claudia von Boeselager: Yeah.

Sergey Young: So it's not generic advice that you can read in a book and implement as well.
So this is my second week with Whoop, with device, from Amazon.
The functionality is pretty much similar for, like, Oura ring, for Apple Watch, for FitBit. I've been experimenting a lot with a Fitbit before. It's been bought by Google, a year, or a year and a half, ago. And I do think Whoop has amazing algorithm, in terms of your feedback, like a daily strain, like the quality of your sleep, et cetera.
So I'm, or partly, it might be the case that it just really new device. So I'm not used to that.

Claudia von Boeselager: So it's more exciting.

Sergey Young: Yeah, well, actually, what I do like about Apple Watch, and things like Garmin or Fitbit, it does have display. And the beauty of a wearable is not only, like, measuring your different health indicators, like you can do it with a lot of different things, even go into the lab, but like the beauty of constant feedback, this is amazing.
And obviously, like, to close my circles and, you know, do 10,000 steps a day, is pretty important. So it's totally stimulating me to live like a healthier version of that. So you are in UK today, right? And-

Claudia von Boeselager: I am in London today, yeah.

Sergey Young: And I was really fascinated by Vitality UK insurance company. When they're using Apple Watch and the algorithm, and your, you know, specialized health improvement program to, well, I would say, completely transform your health.
I even did an interview with Adrian Gore, the man behind, the founder, of Vitality, and many great companies. And he had an interesting story. When they started in South Africa, I think it was right post-Apartheid time. They didn't have access to, like, medical devices, to the healthcare, to medication. And, like, the only option they had, it was just, you know, people changing their lifestyle, like their physical activity profile, and the diet, and the sleep.

And this is where this whole story from Vitality came from, but like, I mean, you would be amazed. I spent half a day with Vitality UK team two years ago. And when I started to write the book. You'd be amazed how many things the person can do in terms of, like, making the positive change to their physical activity profile, and their diet, for a free cup of coffee from Starbucks every week. And two tickets to the cinema for two weeks.

And I'm, you know, this is amazing. Like we humans, we're so, responsive to these small incentives, and this is great. And so, the beauty of the wearables it always gives you, and then it's, like, sense of completion and satisfaction when you know, all circles are done, or you, you know, fulfill all the objectives. for the day, as well.
So that, that's, I'm like super positive about this whole thing. The only area of our health which I still haven't discovered in terms of the power of wearables is our brain work. You know, obviously I'm still in the beginning of my discovery journey in this field. And I used, for quite a while, Muse, actually, Muse 2. Like a device which scans the, your brain waves-

Claudia von Boeselager: Brain waves, yeah.
Sergey Young: Yeah, when you meditate for quite a while. And it's been beautiful, like, they found the most amazing way to give you feedback when you meditate, because when you meditate, like, how do you want to receive feedback, like someone slapping your shoulder, like: "Well done, Sergey! Go!"

Claudia von Boeselager: Yeah. I think people just base it on the feeling afterwards, but to have the actual brain-

Sergey Young: Yeah, so like, what they do, like just, they just, it's done through the sounds of the nature.
So if you're doing, like, a great job, you can hear, like, a bird singing, and it's so beautiful. And if you're doing, like, a really bad job, it's like thunder storm, or, like, it's rainy. It's windy. Well, it's amazing. And I've done a number of neurofeedback sessions which is much more like a medical intervention type of exercise.
But I do think that in the next 2, 3, 5 years from now, we're going to see more wearables which can catch even, like, brainwork portion of our health indicators as well. So I'm waiting for that.

Claudia von Boeselager: Yeah, it's super exciting. And it's actually an area that I'm looking at, myself. I just did the Silva brain training about accessing the alpha levels, and then the theta and things as well. But, you know, to have that feedback. I haven't tried yet the 40 Years of Zen. I don't know if you've done that neurofeedback.

Sergey Young: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I know very well, personally, Lana and Dave Asprey, and yeah, I'm dreaming about this. And, well, this is like, what, what was that? I think it's 40 hours. Yeah, it's 40 hours for, like, it's five or seven days program. Yeah they do it on the beautiful facility.
And I was just, like, 40 hours of neurofeedback. It's been amazing. Like, so I've done 10 sessions, 45 minutes each, of the neurofeedback. And I really felt different. Like, I'm a super energetic person. I'm like here and there, I need to do this, and this. And, after that, you really feel like you're just, I mean-

Claudia von Boeselager: Zen.

Sergey Young: Yeah, but you're like in a Zen, yeah, you're just reflecting, you know. Looking at the beauty of mother nature, or the city you're living in, and enjoying your time. Yeah. It's, it's been beautiful.
My only problem is, like, if you go to and see Lana and Dave, and you do, like, this 40 Years of Zen program, you need to switch off your phone for at least five days.
And this is what I couldn't do.

Claudia von Boeselager: That was your biggest challenge.
Yeah. Yeah. Like, I mean, it's still my biggest challenge because, with private equity portfolio that I run here in Europe with Longevity Vision Fund, with Age Reversal X Prize, with writing the book, promoting the book. It's never a new story. And then, on top of it, is my family life and my four kids.

Sergey Young: So I'm like, you know, it's too difficult disengage myself for this, but I've done, like, a smaller version of the Vipassana, like silence meditation, for three days. And it's been really amazing. But you always, like, in the end of these three days, you always say, like: Oh my goodness, I wish I would be here for, like, ten days rather than three days.

But even, like, the practicing silence with zero access to social media in your phone ,it's been an amazing transformation. I think we all, it all comes back to the premise that there's so many things that we can do with our body and mind today with the means that we already have. So you don't need to dream about something happening in the medical science in 10 or 20 years from now. The time to take back control of our health, and responsibility for our health, is today.

Claudia von Boeselager: We have a lot of tools to be able to do that as well, which is really great.
Let's talk about aging and some of the hallmarks of aging. There's people who say it's a natural process, and you're supposed to die, you know, at a certain timeframe, obviously, unless something happens. So there are naysayers in this space as well.
Can you talk a bit about the hallmarks of aging, and about some of the myths and limiting beliefs people have around longevity, and the space?

Sergey Young: Well, first of all, we were looking for the unified theory of aging for decades. And we haven't been really successful. The outcome of that is, aging process is such a complex process, within the human biology field, that it just, well, it's not really very unlikely, it's impossible that it's going to be one theory, or one hallmark, or one kind of reason for aging and age-related diseases to develop itself. So we always would need to look at combination of the things. That's like a one takeaway that I want everyone to have from this conversation.
Like, there's never going to be, like, a silver bullet solution to aging or fighting age-related diseases. It's always going to be a complex of the things that you would need to do on many levels. So then, I think it was back in 2013, when this research publication came up, and there was a suggestion to look at it, nine different hallmarks of aging.

I'm not going to cover all of them, but what are the most important things that we can learn from it? Well, one, some of the aging processes that starts in our body when we are 40, 45 years old, there's a number of scientists who said the aging starts from the day that we born. But, like, I think aging manifests itself after you finish your reproductive mission in life, and you, kind of, took good care of your kids. And in evolutionary terms, I think it was always around 35, 40 years old. So this is where it starts. From an evolutionary perspective.

So, like, 30 or 40% of what is happening with us in the aging field is genetically predetermined. So, in some of the cases, you can be really unlucky in genetic lottery. In some of the cases you can be, like, super lucky in genetic lottery.
Like, if you look at the centenarians, people who live 100 years and beyond on this Earth, and they've done a lot of genetic studies of these people. In 70% of cases, their longevity has been genetically predefined. So we already know 3000 genes, within our DNA, which are responsible for the aging processes in our body. They're called longevity genes.

And they're more expressed, they more healthy, in the DNA of centenarians. Well that's why, when people tell me: "Well, my grandad, he lived to 100 years, and he was smoking all the time, and, like, drinking alcohol", I'm always saying we have a wrong model of successful aging in the form of centenarians because, with lack of medical tools in the last hundred years, in comparison to today, like, the only way for you would be, like, to live longer, is just not to damage yourself in terms of not putting yourself in a dangerous environment, but, you know, rely on your genetic setup.

So, 30 to 40% is genetically predefined. Then that means that in, for 60 or 70% of things, you can actually influence the aging processes in your body. We are at the point of our evolution when we still cannot really reverse aging significantly, but we can influence the pace of the aging processes in your body.

And it relates to a lot of different things. Like, what is happening within your cells, right? Like mitochondria. Do they have enough energy to support your cell more. Or do you have healthy metabolism? And your body has this enormous ability to take out senescence, like dead cells, from outside your body, not to create the waste inside your body.

And some of them, these hallmarks has a highly scientific explanation. Like our DNA has got these protective caps called telomeres.

Claudia von Boeselager: Telomeres, yeah.

Sergey Young: Telomeres, yeah. And in the process of division of cells, these telomeres, they become worn out. So that's one of the hallmarks of aging, and telomere attrition.

And that means that some of the studies, and some of the research which is done today in the aging space, is actually focused on looking at this effect.
So that's, like, why we age. But there's a bigger problem that I always face when I speak to the audience. And we're actually full of pretty bad needs about aging and our ability to fight it. So, a number of things.

And actually this is where I start my book, just to tell people, like, the way we see aging today is wrong. It's, like, really very old way to think about this. One, a lot of people think that living longer means being older for longer. So people think that, when we talk about life extension, and even if we talk about healthspan extension, which is healthy portion of your life, people think that we're going to add 5, 10, 15 years, right in the end of their life, when you are in an extremely fragile state, and you need to receive a lot of support. You're almost like a burden for your family.
Well, this is not true. What we are working on is an extension of the healthy and happy period of our life, like inserting 10, 20, 30 years, right in the middle of our productive age, anywhere between 25 and 45, depending on your take on that.
So that's important.

The second piece. People are concerned about overpopulation of Earth. Like, back in 1950, we had only 2.5 billion people live in, like the population of the planet. Today, it's somewhere around 8 billion. Yeah, we are approaching this figure. And we always have this, like a resource constraints in our head, saying like, well, where are we going to find the energy? Where are we going to find the food to feed all these people?

And my answer is very simple. Like, I'm not really concerned about the energy because of development of renewable energy space, and the cost of it is just decreasing exponentially all the time. And food-wise, 45% of the food in the US goes to waste every day from supermarkets, from households, from restaurants.
It's just, we have enough resources on this planet to feed everyone. The problem is we are really inefficient in terms of distribution of these resources. And basically I think, in 10 ,20 years from now, the biggest constraints to life extension, is not going to be science, is not going to be technology. It's going to be human ethics, and regulation. And this is, that's why I'm really concerned about our ability, and desire of this world and this society that we created, to embrace the idea of living healthier and longer lives.

As, I've just done a TEDx talk called Morality of Immortality. It's actually the name of the final chapter in my book. And what I'm saying there, we have created the science and technology to extend our life. Well, we haven't created life that we want to extend. Like, inequality gap, or bad relationship with mother nature. Our social constructs that we, social moral, that we have today in this society are really, you know, huge obstacles. Like, think about our social contracts, all of them, like retirement, marriage, career, was created, what, 100 years ago, when average lifespan on Earth was somewhere around 35 years.

So, you know, obviously, like, the whole concept of having one career is outdated. And, yeah, can I have as many careers as decades in my life? What about marriage? So, 2/3 of the marriages go through divorce in the first five to seven years. This is ridiculous. This, and we need to be more creative about the way we, you know, help people to be more responsible as a couple, like kids-raising partnerships, like, whatever the forms that we will create, but right now it's all binary. I'm either, like, you know, free and eligible or, you know, I'm married.
We're lucky ones, you know, I'm happily married. But, like, I see a lot of people who just, like, really changing their life for good or for bad. Or this whole concept of retirement, and full-time job. If you listen to Dan Beuttner, the author of the book about blue zones.

He says that the two most dangerous years of your life is the year of your birth, because we still have pretty high infant mortality for this world, and the year of your retirement. Because, I mean, if you retire and then you lose a lot of social realization opportunities, a lot of relevance, just like a cohort of friends and colleagues-

Claudia von Boeselager: And mental challenge as well, right?

Sergey Young: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, of course. And, and your ability to like, to share your wisdom? Well, in majority of cases, I'm either working full-time, and then I'm retired. This is awful. You know, we're living in the world of flexible working models, and we just need to embrace that, and use it as well.
But, you know, I can go on and on about the ethical side of it. In fact, if you ask people in the US and the UK, 2/3 of the people don't want to extend their life. And that, for me, was the most shocking piece of research I've ever seen. And this is why, you know, I'm always fascinated by how our logic works. So we really hate the idea of living longer on this beautiful planet.

Claudia von Boeselager: I love it, and it's so interesting. And I wonder where you think the next big changes have to come. You talked about regulatory before, you know, is this a governmental thing? How do you see that movement happening in the right direction?

Sergey Young: Yeah. Well, first of all, this is going to happen whether we want it or not, but will it happen in a way which is society-friendly. Well, this is the question that we need to solve.
Like, the science is progressing. Technology is progressing. So there's just a lot of things happening today.

Then whose job is that? When I started to work in the longevity space, I always thought it's like a government job. The problem of longevity, and healthcare, and the government, is that government is always busy with things which are both urgent and important.

Health is always important, but never urgent. So health always gets deprioritized in the government agenda, with only the exception of 2020 of the COVID year. And, like, last year 2020, we managed to go through such a transition, which would not be possible in the course of 20 years of our usual life. In terms of regulatory changes. And in terms of approval. Changing the rules of the trials. Testing capabilities. Quarantines. I mean, it's been amazing.

Moderna vaccine has been developed in the course of two days. Well, obviously, it was just a lot of, it's almost like a decade plus of preparation and work before that. But, like, we managed to sequence the genome of this virus in the course of a few days, and it's happened in China, US, UK, Europe, Russia, Australia, like, it's just been enormous.

Or telemedicine. Pre COVID, 20% of doctors were kind of okay with the concept of telemedicine. But it was not the, like a favorite way to deliver the services and help to the patients. And in so many countries, including the US, you had so many obstacles to use telemedicine. COVID, a few months, and then like 50% of the doctors use telemedicine. And this is brilliant. And well, again, that's the unfortunate reality.

We start to move when we receive shock. And I don't like that, but I just don't see any other way to go around this. And, well, that's why I'm not really hopeful about the government .

Government's job is to provide regulation, and change regulatory context. And the biggest thing which governments can do all around the world is recognize aging either as disease or important risk factor.

Like, after we reach 50, and with every year we age, our chances to get four killer monsters, which is cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and neurodegenerative diseases, increase exponentially. And, right now, if I'm going to be working either in research or in business development, in trying to fight aging, I couldn't really get IP for my discoveries, so my investments will never be paid off.

Well, that's why longevity is the field for crazy guys like me, or the scientists, or entrepreneurs. And we need to create a sustainable economic and regulatory model to support investments into aging.

Just for comparison. Our research and development budget for cancer, every year, is 80 to $100 billion. Every year.
Like, the longevity field is two to four billion dollars a year. Almost like, what, 2%? And this is not fair. This is counter-intuitive. This is the biggest change that we're fighting for.

But I'm not complaining. I mean, there's so many things that we can do today and we're doing that. But, if you think about where's the inflection point, what can change our ability to live longer, healthy, and happy, life?
Well, that's recognition of aging as disease or is an important risk factor, and creation of this economic and regulatory model to support investment in fighting aging and age-related diseases.
It's such

Claudia von Boeselager: an exciting time and a space, you know, I've had some interesting guests on as well. And, you know, even with Dr. Dale Bredesen, who has a protocol now for reversing Alzheimer's and cognitive decline. I think when people begin to really understand and realize that most diseases are preventable. And reversible, if you catch it on time, like you were saying, with getting the test with cancer.

You know, Alzheimer's is a 20-year disease, right? If you caught it on time, you don't need to get it, as well. And I also think that there is this fundamental shift in awareness happening from 20th Century medicine, where you just, diagnosis, and then you just take a pill, to actually, what is the root cause? Almost, for me, going back to sort of Eastern medicine, right? So solving for the root cause.

And it is, as you said, a complex system. So it mightn't be just one issue. It might be actually ten underlying ones of different degrees. And if you solve for all of them, it's done. Your solved. And you've touched on a point before which I think is so interesting, the power of the human body, and of the mind as well, to actually cure itself, and to be given the nutrients it needs to actually repair itself as well. To remember how amazing we are as human beings, and what we're able to do. So, so many exciting things to talk about.

One thing, just to change a little bit of gears, I'd love to understand better. You're obviously high energy, high powered, and 20 different things, at least, if not a hundred things at the same time.
How does your day start, Sergey? What is your morning routine to set yourself up for success?

Sergey Young: Yeah. So I'm doing a number of things. First of all, I'm trying not to plan a lot of things for the morning because we have this tendency, like, wake up and just run into certain activities.
So, and I have a lot of kids, so I'm really enjoying my time in the morning with them. So that's one.

Two, I'm trying to spend at least, like, 10 minutes on my own to do different activities. It's, it can be reading, meditation, just even, like, planning for the day.
And I always plan, like, it's one plus three. I need to have something. One is, stands for, it's called Killing The Blue Monster. Like, the activity of-

Claudia von Boeselager: This, you must explain, Sergey. what is this?

Sergey Young: Yeah, yeah. It's like, which means, like, there's always the thing that you don't want to do. You're just like really delaying day-by-day and, like, you know-
Yeah. And I hate the idea-

Claudia von Boeselager: You push it over on the to-do list.

Sergey Young: Yeah. So you need to start with this. And then, obviously, like, three things that I wanted to push through the day. So like, by the end of the day, I'm a busy, man, like, so many of us, you're going to know that you addressed all your priorities. But it really, the moment of silence, and physical exercise, is important. For five to six days a week, I have one hour of physical exercise it's either stretching in the form of yoga, or pilates, or, you know, more cardio exercises that I do.
And I kind of like that. Well, first you need to take care of the body, and then your mind can work, but not the opposite.

Claudia von Boeselager: I agree as well. Is there any particular form of meditation that you do?
Sergey Young: So I tried a lot of different things.

Claudia von Boeselager: Me too.

Sergey Young: Yeah, what it comes down to is, people will ask me, like, what is the school that I need to take on medi- like, what is the best device for meditation, or the best music?
I actually believe that humans don't need anything to meditate successfully. Probably with the exception of a, kind of, silent room, and some time for yourself. But even like, with all the kids that I have at home, I still manage to meditate. Even in this noise.
So, basically, my advice is not to start with something really long, even, like, 10, 12, 15 minutes every day is much better. And when you try to dedicate like an hour to learn and meditate. Because then it's just very difficult to squeeze out like one hour from your life. So that's one.

Two, it's literally like sitting down, and just calming down your brain with, you can either do it with the power of thought, or with, you know, a particular mantra, or the music, or the activity. So this can be done as well.
And I also think, and you just touched on the example of, like, Eastern and Asian wisdom, and approach. I think we need to redefine what we call meditation. Like, in Japan, like walking through the forest, or in the park, observing, you know, plants, birds, and the mother nature, is also the form of meditation.

Claudia von Boeselager: Mindfulness, yeah.

Sergey Young: Yeah. So like, you know, you just, I mean, I'm living next to the forest, and to the river. So when I have time, I just go outside the house, and walking in the forest, having my own thoughts. And it's a form of meditation as well.

Claudia von Boeselager: Yeah, it's amazing, yeah.
One of the

Sergey Young: best teachers I've had on meditation. He's like: "Sergey, when you have time for yourself, well, this is the meditation. This is where meditation starts." Like, you know, have a little bit of time reserved for yourself, 10, 20, 30 minutes, and like, fill it with the activity when you're not surrounded by the people, but you're just on your own.

Claudia von Boeselager: Yeah.

Sergey Young: That's the best start.

Claudia von Boeselager: That's a really nice thing to say. And, for my dear listeners, it also means without any devices, because the device does not mean that you're by yourself I think people forget that they're like, oh, finally I can check my Instagram or whatever. And it's actually having time with yourself. Completely agree.
And, you know, speaking of which, something that I'm getting better at is the power of saying no, right? So, or the art of saying no, I should say.
How are you at that, Sergey? How do you organize your time? How do you say no to certain things in order to say yes to others?

Sergey Young: Well, that's probably one of the most difficult issues I've ever faced and I'm facing in my life because I'm experiencing such a huge demand for me as a person, someone who can share a lot of interesting and important things.
Well, first of all, you need to have, like, an objective, or a mission, in life? Because then you can measure this against any demand. Like, is it related to my mission?

 Would it help me to realize my mission? And, as well, and when I talk about mission, it's actually your contribution to the world. It's not like, you know, I want to become billionaire, like, will this guy help me to become a billionaire? Money and personal wealth is probably an important resource, but would not really make you happy.
And so that's kind of one. You need to have something in your mind and in your heart to measure against. So that's one thing.

 Second is really about being proactive. You know, I'm like, this 5 to 10 minutes that I spend thinking, like, what are the one, you know, thing that I need to solve today rather than just delaying it all the time, and three priorities that I need to complete today. If you have it, it's just much easier for you to organize your day.
My resolution for the next 12 months is actually creating my virtual avatar. Of Sergey Young.
So I'm actually, starting from September, I'm working on that. And it's, we're going to work together for, like, three to six months until he's going to be capable of doing exactly the same thing that I'm doing.

Claudia von Boeselager: Wow, I love it. That's exciting.

Sergey Young: Yeah. So, like, he can speak in the other conferences, doing the Q and A as well. But, like, this is just a crazy idea. I'm not sure if I will do it.
How do you

Claudia von Boeselager: think your audience will like that? They're expecting Sergey and it's avatar Sergey.

Sergey Young: I don't know, like, we actually it's either today or in three years from now, you will not be able to tell the difference.
Yeah, that's for sure. So then, when I'm saying no, I'm always explaining the logic and linking this to some certain human values. Like, someone who just wants to spend, like, 30 minutes with me over Zoom. And I'm like, you know what, I'm the father of four, I'm working on this

Claudia von Boeselager: Mission-driven work, yeah.

Sergey Young: To bring affordable and accessible version of healthcare to the world.
It's really unfortunate. I couldn't really dedicate this time. So, at least people, kind of, feel that it's not like you just don't want them in your life. You have something to concentrate on. And also, like, having the time when you can work with your smartphone, or with email, rather than looking constantly is great.
I'm reading the book now called Deep Work, I think, and it's a book that's been quoted by Greg McKeown in his Essentialism book. It's, like, one of the best books I've ever had in my life. And all of the major things which has been created in this world has been created in a time of dedication of deep work, when people, went, kind of, silent for a few days, weeks, or even months, and working on something in a total immersion feel.

Claudia von Boeselager: Where the deeper brainwaves are accessed, right?
Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

Sergey Young: Like, right now, because, like pre invention of smartphones, our attention span was somewhere around 15 seconds, and a fish in the bowl's attention span is 9 seconds. After we invented smartphones, our attention span on average is 8 seconds. Even like fish in the bowl is like, is an example of concentration in comparison to all of us.
And it's bad, like-

Claudia von Boeselager: It's horrendous.

Sergey Young: I don't know if you read the book called Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker.
Yeah. It's an amazing book. I've changed my view on sleep and the importance of sleep-

Claudia von Boeselager: Me too.

Sergey Young: After this book. Yeah. Back in 2019.
So, and for my book, The Science And Technology Of Growing Young, I've done 15, sorry, 5, 0, 50 interviews. Like, I even discussed human avatars and the ethics of the future with Peter Jackson, creator of Lord Of The Rings, the Avatar movie and Hobbits as well.
So I sent a note to Matthew Walker saying: "Matthew, can I interview you for my book?" And I received auto-reply, and it was really amazing. Well: "Dear Someone, I'm on my creative sabbatical in 2019 and 2020, please send me email early 2021."

Claudia von Boeselager: Wow.

Sergey Young: I'm like: "Oh my goodness. This is great, I love it. Yeah, like, this is the, well, obviously it's an extreme, but it's just a, you know, example of, you know, dedication and concentration.
And my mission is to change 1 billion lives. So I couldn't really for just, like, do it in a really narrow manner. I always need to think, like, I need to reach maximum people, to engage them, to push them to take care about their own health, and the health of the people they love.

Claudia von Boeselager: Yeah. I absolutely love that.
And I think, I still have to do this properly, but taking a digital detox right? So even just a few days, or even getting in the habit of one day a week and just shutting off the phone as well. And then also working with brainwaves and I think for people to be aware of, and especially where the future is going, right?

I mean, I've got children five and seven years old right now. What's the workforce going to look like? You know, what do they need to really learn? They don't need to be memorizing things anymore. It's creative thinking, right? It's public speaking, and honing in on those skills, and realizing as human beings, where's our value added versus an AI, right? Like you're talking about the avatar.

And it's around the thinking piece. And why aren't we taught more thinking at schools, right? Like, why don't we practice these things a bit more? Because this is really where we are exceptional as humans, and this is where creativity and innovations come from. So I think there's a huge piece around that, as well, for the future of education, but also on realization of, you know, what do you have to contribute to the world in terms of your creativity, your own ideas? So-

Sergey Young: Yeah, well, there's this amazing white paper written by Peter Diamandis, you can download it from his website. It's called Changing The Way We Educate Our Kids. Peter Diamandis, for the audience. And it's been amazing. I'm rereading this every three months.

Claudia von Boeselager: I've read it, yeah I love it..

Sergey Young: Not only because I've a lot of kids, but it's just, like, the whole model of learning and success that we had in our mind and in our life is irrelevant for our kids.
So right now, when they ask me something like: "Well, Daddy, do you know, like, how this works?" I'm like: "I don't know." They're looking at me like: "Just Google that."

Claudia von Boeselager: Yeah.

Sergey Young: And that's it.

Claudia von Boeselager: My kids are even talking like: "Hey Siri", or: "Hey Google, what is the answer to this?" You know, they, kind of, skip over and Mommy knows a few things, but not everything as well.
Yeah, exactly. And I try to remind them the importance of being creative and thinking outside of the box, because an AI, hopefully, won't surpass us on that one just yet.

What has been a favorite quote or piece of advice, Sergey, that you've received, that was a real game changer for you?

Sergey Young: Yeah, I'm not sure to what extent it's going to be, like, relevant for everyone. But I was 18 years old. I was a first year student. And again, I was, like, from a very poor family. And I was just sitting in the corridor of my university and I felt really sad, like world was falling apart. You know, I had the, you know, several issues in my personal life, which is not unusual for, like, 18 years old boy.
And I needed to take care of my financial agenda. Things were not working well in university, with my friends as well. And I've seen the guy who was, like, a fifth year student. And he saw me and like,: "Well, what's up Sergey?"

And I just start complaining like, well, this is bad. This is not working. This is bad. This is awful. And he was looking at me and said: "Well, you know, Sergey, what is the most important thing in life?" And I was looking at him like he was a God, I thought, okay, I'm about to-

Claudia von Boeselager: You listened in, right?

Sergey Young: Yeah something, like, a real wisdom, like things will change my life, which are actually true, in the end. And he was looking and it's like: "The most important thing is to take full responsibility for your own life." And I know it's like, sounds completely obvious, but it was not really obvious for me, which was 18 years old. And then I, I basically thought, well, we humans, we delegate all responsibility for, like, bad things and good things to the external environment.
So, after this discussion, well it's been, what, 31 years, since that. My rule is, I'm taking 100% responsibility for everything happen in my life. Even if this is other people done something good or bad to me, like, I'm taking responsibility that I haven't recognized there is the risk there. Or I afford myself to demonstrate very unnecessary emotions. Or I was not in a resourceful stage, like.
So my mind, in the course of last 31 years, became super creative of finding the way to interpret every situation in my life with a situation where I'm 100% responsible.

Claudia von Boeselager: That is really amazing advice. And I think a lot of people live in this victim state where it's someone else's fault, or something has been done by them.
And, as Tony says, you know, life happens for you and not to you right? So, to actually see what could be the silver lining in a situation, and also what was your contribution, right? So somehow you manifested that as well.
So, that was a wise fifth year student. I don't know if you've gone back and thanked him for this, but it clearly changed the trajectory of your life.

Sergey Young: Yeah.

Claudia von Boeselager: So, very exciting.
I'd love to talk about what you think are some of the most exciting breakthroughs happening in the longevity space. What gets you really excited in the morning when you think about it?

Sergey Young: Well, so, if you think about, like, obviously there's a lot of things that you can do today. That's why the bonus chapter of the book is actually twice as long as any other chapter in the book, and it's dedicated to 10 longevity choices.
But then the major part of the book is dedicated to the near horizon of longevity. And this near horizon, these are technologies, and pieces of science, which will be available to us in the next 5, 10, 15 years. This is very exciting. This is where we invest through Longevity Vision Fund.

And when people ask me, like, what are the most exciting developments that you see in this space? I'm always talking about three things. One is gene editing and gene therapy. For the first time in the human history, we have an opportunity, we have an ability, to amend our genetic code. And we can help so many different people to live healthier and happier lives, to improve the quality of their life. So this is amazing. And again, the recent discoveries and advancements in the vaccine space against COVID is a clear example of that.

Second is longevity in a pill. If you go to the pharmacy today and you'll ask for a pill against aging, or age-related diseases, they would think you're crazy. They would send you the cosmetics or supplements. But, like, in 5 to 10 years from now, we're going to have a special, like, a separate category of drugs.
And these drugs will really focus on fighting the aging processes inside your body. And, therefore, decreasing your risks of facing Alzheimer's, diabetes, cancer, heart disease. And this is 90% of the deaths happening after 50. 50 years old. And we already have a few candidates for longevity in a pill, for a anti-aging drugs, like Metformin, the old diabetes drug, or Rapamycin immunosuppressant, or it can be a drug developed by artificial intelligence, together with human intelligence.

I'm very excited about this whole thing. And the third thing is organ regeneration. Coming back to my earlier car, an old car, metaphor. One of the reasons why cars last that long is that we can always replace, like, an engine or any other parts of the car. And I do believe that the same thing will happen with organs inside our body.
Our body is much more complex, so I'm simplifying the things. There's just a lot of systems, like a liquids, different levels of organization of the body, but, like, organ replacement, and organ generation is very important. And there's so many things happening in 3D organ bio-printing, or recreating organs from different biomaterials, like from, you know, animals.
Pigs are actually the most genetically-

Claudia von Boeselager: Similar, right?
To us, yeah. And, like, 99% of DNA, I think, is there. The company we invested in is called Lygenesis, and they're using our lymph nodes to regrow organs inside our body. So they take, like, a donor liver and help, not one recipient, but they help 50 to 75 people-

Claudia von Boeselager: Wow.

Sergey Young: Just splitting this in a number of small nucleus. They put, very simple laparoscopic operation, put it inside our lymph node. And then, in the course of three to six months, our body regrows the new liver.

Claudia von Boeselager: Wow.

Sergey Young: Which supports the function of your liver, which is not working today. Well, this is amazing technology. They've done trials already with mice, dogs, pigs, and primates.
And, earlier this year, they received FDA authorization to start human trials. So they're starting human trials in November this year. So this is not the science-fiction. This is what will happen. Like, and if you look at the organ transportation field, well it's just really inefficient and difficult. Like, I think, in the US only, we have 117,000 people on the waiting list to receive their organ transplants.
17 people die every day because they couldn't really wait for their organ anymore. And it's, again, one donor helping one recipient, which is very inefficient. Now, like, liver transportation is a six-to-eight hundred thousand dollars surgery. That's just a huge disruption that they can bring to the space.
So these are the three fields that I'm most excited about in terms of, like, changing our ability to extend our lifespan, and healthspan.

Claudia von Boeselager: Really, such an exciting space.
Sergey, thank you so much for all your time. Before we jump, when is your book coming out? So I've pre-ordered it on Amazon, but for our listeners, The Science And Technology Of Growing Young, when is it coming out? Where can people find it?

Sergey Young: Yeah, so the easiest way to buy it on, like, on every book-selling platform like Amazon, or whatever you like.
It's called The Science And Technology Of Growing Young. The publication date is August 24th, so it's extremely close, and the book is already doing great. So it's already number one on Amazon in three categories, Preventative-

Claudia von Boeselager: Congratulations.

Sergey Young: Longevity, and Aging. And it's almost, like, unbelievable for the new book which still hasn't been published to be so popular.

Claudia von Boeselager: I know, how does that actually work?

Sergey Young: Yeah, no, like, just on the number of pre-orders. And download, like, in bestseller list, the book is actually competing with the books which are already on sales today.

So that's amazing. And we put together a brilliant offer. For someone who will buy the book, you can go to SergeiYoung.com, to my website, and you will receive more and more access to free content like Longevity Video Academy, where I made 12 10 minutes video to explain, like, different sides of longevity, both in terms of science and technology and current lifestyle changes, what you can do today. And a couple of other things.

So I'm looking forward to share the book with the world. And, as my publishers say:

 "Sergei, hopefully it's going to be very powerful book." I want to change the world. And a book is just one of tools.

Claudia von Boeselager: So exciting.
And where can people follow? You mentioned SergeyYoung.com.
Sergey Young: Yeah, SergeyYoung.com.

Claudia von Boeselager: Social media?

Sergey Young: Yeah, it's easy. And there you can find my social media tags, as well.

Claudia von Boeselager: Handles, as well.
Sergey, do you have a final ask, recommendation, or any parting message, for my audience?

Sergey Young: Yes. Yes, I do.
It's time to take back responsibility and control over your health. It's extremely important. And there's so many things that you can do today. I just want to encourage you to start this amazing journey of discovering the world of human biology, and your own health. Stay healthy and happy.

Claudia von Boeselager: Thank you so much, Sergey, for coming on.
Sergey Young: My pleasure.


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