Claudia von Boeselager [00:00:00]:
 My guest today is doctor Jack Kruse, a neurosurgeon and a health expert who had an awakening in 2007 when he suffered a torn meniscus in his knee at 6’2”, 357 lbs. This led to his further study of physics, light, magnetism, and electricity. He ultimately concluded that modern science lacked a deep understanding of how humans function in relation to the natural world. He became well known for his work on the paleo diet and connection between the brain and gut health.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:00:58]:
He's also the CEO of the Kruse Longevity Center where he focuses on helping people avoid common health issues as they age. His first book, Epipaleo Rx, the prescription for disease reversal and optimal health, was published in 2013, and he continues to share his insights. With years of experience, he shares insights on biohacking, sleep optimization, and even the impact of electromagnetic fields, EMF, on our health. Doctor Kruse aims to empower individuals to take charge of their health in a more holistic way. Welcome to the longevity and lifestyle podcast, doctor Kruse. Jack, it's a pleasure to have you with us today.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:01:39]:
Thanks.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:01:40]:
So I'd love if you could share a bit more about your awakening following a torn meniscus in 2007 and how this changed your traditional approach from traditional medicine to looking at how physics, light, and biology are connected.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:01:56]:
Well, the way in which the, injury happened didn't make any sense, from things that I had learned about in residency, and, I decided to jump down a rabbit hole. I had a little push. It was a orthopedic surgeon's wife who was there that worked for a biotechnology company in California. Mhmm. And she, told me, I think I know how this happened. I'd like to send you a book and 6 papers of and she gave me directions, actually, of I want you to read the book first and then the paper second. And the name of the book was, Monk Who Sold His Ferrari, And then the papers were all about a hormone called leptin. And I had never learned about leptin because it was discovered after I had finished my training.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:02:39]:
Mhmm. So it was kind of, interesting. And, I went down the rabbit hole, and I realized fairly quickly that she was trying to she was trying to get me to light big pharma up, but instead, I decided to go a different way. I my idea was what was present in the book? Was it possible in reality? Then I went back to the medical school library in the town that I was practicing in, and, magically, I found a pathway that leptin would act with, and that was called the Milano Cortin Pathway. And I started to read some new papers and found out that leptin linked to this. In fact, the target of leptin was, the melanocortin pathway in the brain stem. And one thing led to another, went and probably read I'd say this started in 05, and then it went to 07. Mhmm.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:03:36]:
Then, I took my family on a trip to Europe. And I was standing at the foot of Michelangelo's statue. Mhmm. And that's when the eureka moment came through where all the things I had read for 18 months actually came together at the foot of the statue. Why? I looked up at David and saw perfection from 500 years ago and I looked at me and I said, well, I'm not perfect. And as I looked up to look at his behind, a thing of light came down from the cupola and on the ledge of the cupola, if you ever been to Florence, there was actually a bird sitting there. And it dawned on me right away, this is the KT event. This is the difference.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:04:19]:
This is it's light. Light is the whole deal between leptin and and melanin. And then very, very quickly when I got on the plane the next day to go back home on the Delta flight, I actually started to scribble my quilt document, which is the first document that I ever wrote, about this and started to order things in terms of levies. Why? Because at the time I did my residency in New Orleans and levies are how we protect the city. And I thought, well, this would be a good way to order the ideas of how do you protect yourselves with these 30 ideas. Fundamentally, that's where it came down and the pillars of health are light, water, and magnetism, and you need to optimize all of them. And the irony for me was when this whole thing came to fruition, I realized these were the same three things that SETI for NASA looks for extra extraterrestrial life. And they actually have the same mode and mechanism.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:05:21]:
And the irony is they came to that in a completely different way than I did. But the fact that we both came to the same conclusion, I thought was actually kinda comforting because they did it through their experimentations at in space and space medicine, and I did it actually from a theoretical standpoint, really from a book and several papers. And then I would say my own n equals 1 on myself. So then, I stood in front of my family very soon after this trip and told them I was gonna employ this thing I came up with called the leptin prescription. And, my brother-in-law at the time was sitting there and I told him I'll be wearing your jeans next year. And that was kind of a joke because he was probably £185, £200 and I was £365 at the time. Long story short, I think it was in 3 months, I lost £77, in 1 year I lost 133. Then, of course, as a scientist, I didn't believe that this actually could fundamentally work and I did it on my son and I did it on my nephew.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:06:33]:
And I had more success with the younger people than I even did with me. Mhmm. And then I decided to make the next step is people that I was seeing in my clinic as a neurosurgeon. I said, look, there may be a chance that I could potentially offset your surgery or potentially make your recovery from the surgery faster. And I told them a little bit about, you know, what I was doing. And, of course, a lot of people, you know, they weren't interested. And the ones that were, we did it on, and they actually had spectacular results. So this started creating a buzz in the hospital, and, eventually, the buzz got so big all over the city that I was asked to do a TED talk.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:07:15]:
And the TED talk was was done after me doing this for about 4 years in my town. And several of the doctors that were in my hospital started to send me patients who are not neurosurgical patients. They were people that had diseases that were difficult to treat. Most of them had been to, like MD Anderson, the Mayo Clinic, Harvard, Stanford. And the hardest cases that were present in my community, I got a shot on. The people were open minded, and we had a pretty spectacular result. So one of the gastroenterologists in the hospital told me, he goes, you got to put this stuff out there. He goes, you realize that this is not going to resonate with, centralized medicine and peer review because they're going to try to rip this apart.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:08:09]:
Goes, You're going to have to come up with a different plan prior to that. Because like I said, this began for me in 2005. We're now about 2010, 2011. Early on in the journey when I realized that the physics of organisms was the key to understanding circadian biology, I went and visited a person who became my mentor. I mean, this is a person that I didn't physically meet, only through his books, And that was Robert O'Bekker. And he was at the end of his life, and I sat down with him, and he told me what he faced with the industrial military complex. And when you find a fabulous idea, you think as a scientist or a doctor that people are going to meet, you know, this progress with open arms, and that's actually not the truth. Why? Because the industrial military complex, and it turns out big pharma who are partners in most things, and when you filter them down, they come through pretty much money and control.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:09:12]:
He just told me the way in which you do this, you need to be careful. So with that idea in mind, I began to do something that I don't think anybody else prior to me in medicine really did, where you try to educate a swath of people on what really matters and then subtract out the superfluous. Because it turns out most of the things in centralized medicine, most of the things in longevity, they are superfluous. And the thing is, in order to get people to that level, you actually have to teach them what really matters, and then you have to teach them consistency and how to do it over and over and over. And the nice thing is with my work, the consistency part is not difficult. It doesn't cost a lot of money. Everything that I teach people is kind of free. With the exception is you may have to change the way in which you live your life, the way in which you do your job, the way in which you are a mother, a father, a caretaker, or even a surgeon.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:10:18]:
Like one of the big changes for me was we used to start our cases 6, 6:30 in the morning. That changed. I didn't start any of my cases till 8:30 after that. Why? Because Sunrise is a non negotiable situation for me. And, that's kinda how the process started.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:10:37]:
It's, beautiful, especially how amazing to have a eureka moment in front of something so perfect like Michelangelo's David. So I've had the pleasure of also witnessing it as well and for taking action. So really, thank you for for your work in that space. Where would you say for people trying to understand? Because as you said yourself, it's it is a industrial complex, if you will, of traditional medicine, and many people are understanding only one way of thinking. How do you explain to people who might be new to your methods and way of thinking?

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:11:12]:
Well, it's actually easier now it's actually much easier now to have this discussion with people than it was, I'd say, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, or 20 years ago because of what everybody just went through with COVID. Here's the perfect example. The perfect example is the government narrative was that we should stay out of the sun, social distance, and do all these things, and we saw what an epic fail that was. And then they put the, whipped cream and cherry on top of the sundae and said, look, the jab is the best way to go. And it turns out if you took the jab, boy, do you have a huge problem to deal with now that the aftermarket date has come out? So actually, I think my message has gotten much, much easier for people because what you have to realize is that you've been preconditioned, but not only by the system, by your parents, by schooling, everything about, centralized medicine is about precognition, meaning that you have been preconditioned to accept, you know, what they tell you and they're the experts and you'll do it. For example, when you go to see a doctor, no matter where you are in the world, whether it's Europe or the United States, you know, if you don't get a prescription for it, you feel like, well, this was a waste of time. And that idea comes from the preconditioning you got. And when you begin to realize that the person who really preconditions everything in medicine, who gave doctors that idea, who doctors gave the patient the idea, that was big pharm, and that started, at the turn of the 18th 20th century.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:12:46]:
That started with the robber barons in the United States who basically had one of their oil trusts broken up. And then from the breakup, started the idea of big pharma, which started in New Jersey. And they started to use industrial chemicals to place in pharmaceuticals. And at the same time, how did they get physicians at that time who were much more interested in electricity at the time than now because electricity is a big part of, light water magnetism, they actually came up with, a guy named, Flexner to come up with a report. And in the report says this is how we're gonna fix schools and what the idea of the Rockefeller Foundation at that time is if we can change the curriculum, we can change the culture of medicine away from vitalism and then towards reductionism, and that's exactly how it happened. The problem is most people today, you know, you're a 130 years, 120 years away from that. You don't realize how all this went on, and there was a lot of politics around that. You had to know what else was going on.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:13:56]:
The Federal Reserve was beginning in the United States. There was a huge problem with the royal family in Britain. All these things played a role in terms of how it happened. Basically, slowly over a period of time, the paradigm for about 30 years was changed from 1911 to 19 thirties and forties. World War 2 starts to break out. We have war, and then what is the the single key moment that solidified that the Rockefellers would win? It was actually Alexander Fleming discovering penicillin. And when penicillin comes out, it's truly a miracle drug. It it does things that no other drug's ever done.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:14:35]:
And what does that do? Kinda pushes everybody to the belief that that there's a drug for every ill, and that was reinforced post war America, post war Europe. It was reinforced everywhere in the world. So there's other things that happened at that time. In the fifties, we get the idea that UV light's bad. Why? Because of a paper about retrolental hyperplasia in children. Because when they were born with, you know, hernictorus or or jaundice, they put used to put babies in UV light. So that's where the babies all got better from the jaundice. But the interesting thing is they noticed that they started to have problems with, their eyes.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:15:21]:
And that's actually where the first idea that UV light in the sun was somehow toxic. Again, nobody looked at the embryology of the eye, why this was a problem, or the fact that UV light from the sun never comes packaged by itself. It has 6 other colors with it. Mhmm. And then they changed from UV light and started to use blue light. And if you go back and look at pretty much any epidemiologic problem, most of the big diseases in the world start from 18/93 when Tesla, thing house, give us the power grid in the world, and we start plugging things into it, specifically light. And those lights are not similar to what the sun is. That's how the story starts.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:16:16]:
And the doctors who were marginalized by the Flexner report are basically thrown out of their academic positions. They're removed from medical schools, and you can see there's a whole culture change that goes on for about 50 years, which brings us to right around the late 19 thirties, 19 forties, same time when Alexander Fleming does what he does. Another chap who you may have heard of, named Alba St. Georgi wins a Nobel Prize for partially for the Krebs cycle and partially for vitamin c. The irony was he was right about vitamin c, but he was wrong about the TCA cycle, but it didn't matter. He was a brilliant guy, and he was a physician. He happened to give a speech in 1941 where Robert O' Becker, the orthopedic surgeon that I told you about in the beginning of this podcast

Claudia von Boeselager [00:17:11]:
Mhmm.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:17:11]:
Was there, and he made this comment, in there. He said, if you look at proteins remember, this is a pre DNA, time. DNA is not discovered till 53. He makes a comment to the medical students that are there that proteins look like they have an electronic structure. They almost look like semiconductors. Now realize, at this time, quantum mechanics is in a it's still not even known as the way everything operates. It starts in about 1890 to 1905 until Einstein comes in with Planck and all them. It's still being developed.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:17:50]:
In fact, quantum electrodynamics and quantum chromodynamics doesn't get its Nobel prize till 19 sixties. That's with Feynman and Schwinger. So we are right in the middle of this. And this doctor who wins a Nobel Prize for vitamin c said, I think we're filled with a bunch of semiconductors because of the the atomic structure of proteins. So Becker hears this. And literally, in 25 years, he definitively proves that Albert St. Georgi's hunch was correct. Now the crazy part of this from those 25 years, what happens in the United States? We move away from an industrial revolution and we enter the information age.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:18:37]:
The information age where it's based on semi conduction, but semi conduction of silicon, not carbon. And this is where you have, technology companies begin to explode. The Manhattan Project is the single thing that drove most of the big tech innovation. Most people don't know this. I know Europeans don't know American history well, but Americans don't even know it well. Why? Because as I told you before, the industrial military complex has tried to hide a lot of this from Americans, so they don't understand how these how these things link. So back in 1942 when FDR it's not 42. This happened in 39.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:19:23]:
Albert Einstein writes a letter to FDR that he thinks the Nazis are gonna create an atomic bomb, and he knows a lot of the players that are involved. The number one guy that's running the nuclear program in Germany is Werner Heisenberg, who came up with the uncertainty principle. And this letter, really, alarms FDR. FDR then puts people together. At that time, there was only one intelligence agency in the United States. That was the FBI that was formed in 1908. Chronically, because of some of the malarkey that went on with the royal family, JPMorgan, and in finances. So the guy that's leading that charge is a guy named J Edgar Hoover you may have heard of, Then there's, another guy named Wild Bill Donovan, and one of his protege's name, Kennan.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:20:14]:
From 1939 to 1942, the FBI and this OSS, which is the precursor for the CIA, these guys are fighting about intelligence, about what's really going on in Germany. A civil engineer who went to West Point, who is really good. He knows a lot about science, a lot about engineering and a lot about the military. So he has a very unique, viewpoint. He's very different than the generals that are, that you've heard of in World War II for the Americans, like Eisenhower, MacArthur and Patton. His name is Leslie Groves. He gets tapped by, FDR to run the Manhattan Project because he has an ability to do all these things. He has a skill set that's appropriate for, you know, a huge industrial project.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:21:05]:
The first thing that Leslie Groves does, ironically, given what we've already said in the podcast, he goes and meets with Henry Ford and Rockefeller. And why does he do that? He knows that both of these men are in big industrial applications, and he wants to know about their process, about how you build cars and how you retooled from Standard Oil to create big pharma. So he gets a variety of different ideas from them. But the number one idea that he gets is that he's told by both men, and neither men knew what each other had told Groves. That the most important thing is that you need to silo people in what they're good at doing, and then you need to stay, proximal to that so that you can link them all together. It's good for productivity and also limits, the effect of sabotage. And, of course, Groves, realizing that he's creating the biggest industrial project up to humanity at this time, this occurs. So one of the guys that's in FDR's cabinet who becomes much famous later on in US history is named Allen Dulles.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:22:17]:
In fact, if you ever flown to Washington DC, Dulles Airport is named.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:22:21]:
Dulles Airport.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:22:22]:
Yeah. Dulles is in charge of a, an operation that Wild Bill Donovan and Kennan come up with. It's called Operation Paperclip. Operation Paperclip goes to Europe and poaches all the best scientists that are Jewish because the Nazis are coming to get them. And believe it or not, that's how we get almost all of the people that work on the bomb. Mhmm. I didn't say all, but 80%. And we get some kind of wild cards in there.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:22:55]:
In fact, one of the people that we get, a lot of people doesn't know, is Wernher von Braun who actually brings all the rocket technology from the Nazis to the United States, and that's actually the birth of NASA. So I always tell people, before you you think Hitler's completely bad, realize that he gave us some pretty big ideas in the United States, but we stole them. FDR basically put all these scientists together with Grosz. Grosz makes the bomb, and he does it from 1942 to 1945. What happens at the end of the war is not very well known in the American. It's certainly not well known in Europe. You guys were much more interested in in the Marshall Plan and how we rebuilt Europe. But 2 seminal events happened that Grose is involved with.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:23:44]:
The first one, you know about these these meetings that we have Churchill, Stalin, and FDR. Well, the second one is with Truman. The first one is at Yalta, and this is where FDR basically tells Stalin for you defeating the Nazis in in Germany, we will rebuild Russia. You gave 28,000,000 people, and we're gonna do this for you. That kind of infuriated general Gross. And Churchill wasn't very happy either because you know Churchill's history. He didn't really like communist, but he also had dictates from the king at the time, which is King George, I believe King George the 5th. George wanted to make sure that they kept the power over the seas to reach the colonies.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:24:31]:
Churchill didn't have much to say at Yalta, but he was very concerned and so was Groves. Groves then comes up with a plan to get, a better vice presidential candidate than FDR had. Why? Because at the time, FDR's got polio. He's in his 3rd term. We have a DNC conference coming up in Chicago in 44, and he hand selects Harry Truman to replace Henry Wallace who is a 3 term vice president. Why does he do that? Groove's idea immediately is after the war. He wants to set up an industrial military complex that's within the United States military. His idea is to morph the office of OSS with Bill Donovan and Kennan into the Central Intelligence Agency.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:25:18]:
Okay? That's where the idea is born, but it's born in all the things that happened in the Manhattan Project and in 1944. Most people know their history of the war. The bombs are dropped in the summer of 45, but I told you, we started in December of 44. Dies, and general Groves' hunches, correct, in April. Truman comes in. At the DNC, he replaces he gets Jimmy Byrnes, who's a politician in the United States, to replace Harry Truman. I should say Henry Wallace with Harry Truman. And the reason they do that is they wanna create a Manchurian candidate that will do what they wanna do, specifically set up the industrial military complex.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:26:01]:
Now remember, all the leaders of industry in the United States, the guys that I'm telling you, Rockefeller Mhmm. Ford

Claudia von Boeselager [00:26:08]:
Ford.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:26:08]:
Bankers. Everybody is behind Groves' plan. They think this is a good idea. Why? Because they see how successful they are in building the bomb very quickly. The bomb at this time isn't even tested. It's tested. The final test is at Trinity in the desert in July of 1945. But when everybody from industry and everybody in the military sees it, they're stunned.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:26:33]:
They are truly stunned because nobody believed that they actually could do it that fast. Mhmm. And everybody in history is told about Harry Truman's thing on his deck desk that says the buck stops here. Do you know who put that on his desk?

Claudia von Boeselager [00:26:48]:
No. Who?

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:26:48]:
General Groves. And general Groves is the one that decided to drop the bomb, and this is what creates the big rift. The reason why the industrial military complex is no longer inside the government. It actually is forced outside. Why? The generals that were in Europe at the time, Eisenhower, Patton, MacArthur, they are absolutely furious what's going on back home. They feel like general Groves is a guy that is a babysitter of all these scientists. They have no earthly idea kinda what Groves is doing, but they look at as their soldiers. They're taking care of people dying on the front, and Groves is getting all this, applaud from back home, and they don't think he really did too much.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:27:37]:
So it turns out it's Eisenhower that eventually speeds this whole process up because he basically convinces Truman, that Groves needs to go, and Groves has no place in the military in a postwar world. Now just think about this. This is a guy that creates the atomic age and you have people in the military trying to force them out, so it's a power struggle. So who wins? It turns out Eisenhower does win. But on the way out the door, general Groves in the National Security Act, it's an executive order in the United States. Literally, it's a paragraph that's this big. He turns the office of the OSS into the CIA, and that's how it begins. Then it gets crazier.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:28:21]:
Groves leaves the military. He goes in, private life, and Eisenhower this whole time thinks he wins. If any of you don't know American history, who's the president after Truman? It's Eisenhower for 8 years throughout the whole fifties. So Eisenhower thinks he's won, and what Groves does on the outside of the government, he has liaisons between all the people in the CIA, then he gets 2 companies. 1 is called Remington Rand, who is the number one producer of guns for the US military during World War 2. Then he he merges with another company called Burrows, which is a a simple machine company that makes, you know, calculated sewing machines, things like that. Nobody can figure out what he's doing. Remember what General Groves does? He's a he's a core of engineers, engineer general.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:29:12]:
He basically takes these two companies and creates the 1st computer company in the United States. It's called Sperry. And what does Sperry do? Realizes from 1947 to when, Eisenhower comes in that there's not gonna be a lot of kinetic wars left. This is gonna be wars about information. And how did he come to this realization? Believe it or not, some of the people that he put in place in the CIA, like Wild Bill Donovan and Kennan had an opportunity when Alan Turing was still alive to go visit Mi 6 and when they were working on the Enigma code. Mhmm. The royal family never let, and Churchill never let the Americans see what they were really doing, but it was very clear to the American military that information technology and cryptography was a really big deal. Okay? Mhmm.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:30:05]:
And this is something America did not have at all at the time. So Groves gets this idea, creates this outside the government. Okay? And what happens next? The 19 fifties in the United States was probably the golden age under Eisenhower. That's when everything was spectacular, but the industrial military complex grows from a small little seed and becomes a monster. At the end of Eisenhower's reign, this is now 1960 Mhmm. General Gross has military contractors everywhere. This is where Halliburton. This is where the oil people are involved.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:30:44]:
This is where all big tech the the the seeds of big tech in the United States are built outside the military with links to the CIA and FBI. And, shockingly, Eisenhower realizes in his last year that he has been played big time by general Groves. General Groves leaves what he built in 1961. But on the way out the door, Eisenhower gives this famous speech called his farewell speech. And in that speech, he makes the comment to the American public that you need to be very careful with the industrial military complex. And how crazy is this story when you realize that in 1958, everything that general Grosse built on the outside, Eisenhower says, I gotta have this on the inside. And what does he do? That's where DARPA is created. And DARPA is created at the end of Eisenhower's reign, and many of the pieces that general Gross built is actually then reabsorbed.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:31:48]:
Like, the organizational structure is then reabsorbed back into the government. And, again, you'll see there's a 120 silos in DARPA. And believe it or not, DARPA didn't start out with the d in front of it. It was ARPA first. And for those of you who are following this story, you may remember the first big thing that general Groves and the industrial military complex build is ARPANET, which is the forerunner of the Internet. This is where it starts. And what it was is designed to link academics all over the world. Remember the story I told you about operation paperclip? Now you're seeing the digital format of this story.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:32:30]:
The digital format of operation paperclip is general is getting all the scientists everywhere in the world to communicate. That idea was born in the Manhattan Project. Now it's been modernized. In other words, it's evolved. Mhmm. So that's how it comes to power. And at the end of 1960, all the people that were germane informing it, specifically the productionists, the industrialists like Ford, the Rockefellers. They sit at a position that's right next to the industrial military complex.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:33:10]:
And for you to understand why this complex has a huge play in centralized medicine, in health care and longevity, this power seat that they built basically becomes the strongest part of the US military, and it actually begins to make most of the big decisions that occur down the road. And one of the, you know, the things that happens through the sixties and into the seventies and eighties in the United States is they get the idea that the government needs to control health care. And this is where you get HMOs. This is where you get DRGs, you get ICD 9 codes. What is the design, for this? Is to subtract time from doctors so that they can focus on algorithms. What also is going on in in DARPA at this time, they are creating algorithms that they eventually in 1994, 95 give to Sergey Brin and Larry Page. Mhmm. And remember I told you, everything is preconditioned.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:34:12]:
Yeah. The problem is if you don't understand the history, you don't understand how the system was built, you don't understand where the preconditioning comes from. And this preconditioning really started actually in World War 1 with the family fight, which was the royal family that went to the world stage. And it turns out the royal family lost more at that time than anybody else even though we're on the winning side. And then what happens? The United States cedes control and then basically installs terms that almost guarantee a second World War, with the Treaty of Versailles. And when you begin to understand how this whole thing unfolds, you begin to realize the same problems that you see in COVID are tied to the construction of the system. We've kept scientists siloed. We make sure that nobody talks to each other.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:35:10]:
We make sure that

Claudia von Boeselager [00:35:10]:
medicine.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:35:11]:
Right. Everywhere. And and when doctors are going through, they're taught enough, but they don't question the system. And what is evidence based systems now in in centralized medicine? It's all algorithmic medicine, meaning it's recipes. So when you come in to the ED and you have supraventricular tachycardia, we have something called the BLS or ACLS algorithm that all doctors are supposed to go through, and it's reiterated through your training. No doctor thinks anymore. They just look at an algorithm. Mhmm.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:35:45]:
You're treated the same way in surgery. You're treating the same way with hypothyroidism. It's everywhere in the system. In other words, this idea of using algorithms is actually like a software program. And when you begin to understand that this happened from the merger of Burroughs and Remington Rand and SPURY comes up, what does SPURY eventually become? It actually becomes UNISYS. UNISYS is one of the biggest industrial military contractors you can imagine. That happens in 1986. What does UNISYS physically do? They work with Harvard University and Stanford University to come up with ICD 9 and DRG codes.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:36:28]:
And these these things are the pillar of what what has ruined American medicine. But it's ruined American medicine, but it's good for the industrial military complex because remember what general Groh's goal was? Total control and domination of the system. Because remember, he's a process engineer, and he fundamentally had the belief that you have to get rid of this individuality in people so that you can get a common task

Claudia von Boeselager [00:36:56]:
done. Standardize it basically to get the data to train the algorithms.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:37:00]:
That's what centralization is all about. Well, when you come back to the story that we started the podcast with with Jack at the foot of Michelangelo Statue, nature, which uses light water magnetism, is completely decentralized. In other words, there's no single controller. Nothing is siloed In in nature, there's a light and a dark cycle. There's melanin in water. There's there's so many coupled cycles it's not even funny, and they all have to work in unison in order for us to become who we're gonna become. What really happened at the foot of that statue is because I happen to know the history of centralization in industrial America and information technology America. You now are seeing evolution 3 point o where you're going from the industrial revolution to artificial intelligence.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:37:52]:
And I can tell you artificial intelligence is absolutely the single worst thing that could happen to humanity. Why? Because anything where it's used, it's used to centralize the process further, meaning your sovereignty for choosing, your sovereignty for freedom and liberty gets subtracted out. Why? Because there's a controller that controls the whole process. And the saddest part of this is that the population of the world needs to realize artificial intelligence when you actually sit down with these people. I guess the number one place that's being used in medicine right now is in longevity. So it's a really bad idea, and they're trying to put it everywhere. You need to realize that artificial intelligence has no target at all. If you sit down and ask, in decentralized medicine, what's the target? That one's simple.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:38:43]:
It's our children. Our children are aliens. They're an alien between mom and dad. They have pieces and parts for each one. They're not the same as each one. They're different. And they actually operate on the same software program, light water magnetism, that everybody else operates on. And when you begin to see that and then you see from teen sixties to now, doesn't matter what country you're in, people are doing much, much worse.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:39:09]:
Why? Because many of the things that have come out of DARPA and the industrial military complex is actually really not good for health. Why? Because they destroy the the key tenants, which is light, water, and magnetism. Like the number one one for your audience who's probably not realizing, the screen technology that we all use. Screen technology creates blue light. Blue light destroys, the signaling, the optical signaling in the leptin melanocortin pathway. But what else does it do? It dehydrates your mitochondria. So when you begin to realize that you don't create as much water as you get older, and this can happen now and when you're 20, 30 years old, you begin to understand why kids are getting sick. You know, as teenagers, this is why suicide levels are up.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:39:56]:
It's also why kids are getting, you know, neurodegeneration at at ages that you can't fathom. But you gotta put 2 and 2 together. And I try to explain to people the simple ideas because under explaining the physics to them kinda makes their head explode. But I tell people, think about a baby that comes out of its mother's vagina. It's a ball of fat. It's a nervous system that's not fully developed, but the child is 80% water. Then correlate that with your grandmother or grandfather. They're 80 years old, 90 years old.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:40:25]:
They're only 50 to 55% water. All of a sudden, you start to go so aging and longevity has to have something big to do with water. And the other thing you'll find out was when you go down this path long enough, you'll find out that the older you get, the harder it is to make vitamin d. So what does that tell you? It tells you as you age, you need more sun, not less. That's exactly the opposite of what you're told in centralized medicine. And when you start stringing these things together, you start going, you know, we're not told any of this in in centralized paradigms and frameworks. In fact, almost everything you're told in centralized medicine, everything you're told in longevity is exactly the opposite of what decentralized medicine tells you. And the only way that you can understand my paradigm is to take a walk through history to understand how the paradigm was changed, you know, through the industrial military complex, through the corporations in America, through the executive and legislative branches.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:41:32]:
Because guess what? Everything America did in post war America was then globalized everywhere in the world. Everybody has this belief that America is somehow better and smarter than everybody because we won 2 world wars and we bailed the most of your asses out, you know, in those wars. I think the one country that would argue with that pretty loudly is Russia, and I think they're right about that. Turns out Russia has done more work on decentralized medicine than the United States has done in the last 100 years. And how did I learn a lot of this when I went through this epiphany in 2005 to 2007? I spent almost a $100,000, translating Russian articles on biophysics into English because at that time, there was no books on quantum biology. Now people listening to this podcast, you won't have to spend that kind of money. But in the beginning, I had to do that, and that's where I found out that all living cells make extreme low frequency UV light through something called biophotons. And when I started to see all these little pieces, and these were not opinions, these were not conspiracy theories, then I started to think about some of the big ideas.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:42:51]:
I said, why is it that America has Google, Intel, and Microsoft and all these cell carriers, but Russia doesn't have any of it. And Russia has had the all the information like we have. And remember, Russia built a bomb right after we built our bomb. It turns out Russia had the same information later than general Gross did, but they went a different path. And that's the reason why to this very day, their non native EMF, regulations are radically different than those in the United States. And for those of you who think Russia is a really bad player, when, Stalin was still alive, he sent some of his scientists to Los Alamos in the Sandian nuclear labs to tell them that there was huge problems in biology if you use non AVMF to build out tech weapons. It turns out all general Grosse friends in the military complex convinced Eisenhower at that time that this was, you know, propaganda of the KGB, and it turned out that was the wrong decision. Why? Because the generals in the United States that were linked, this is a pre DARPA world, they were still PTSD from World War 2.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:44:08]:
They thought, you know, Russia wasn't our friend. Who was the number one person that drove that ideology is actually general Groves. Why? Because the second, meeting that I told you about, I glanced over. After FDR drives dies, we have a meeting at Potsdam. Potsdam now is between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin. You know what general Groves told Truman at that meeting? Everything that FDR promised Russia, tell them kiss our ass. It's gonna be the reverse. You are now gonna be our enemy in post World War 2, and that's actually how the cold war started.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:44:44]:
It began at Potsdam.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:44:46]:
Wow.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:44:46]:
And this explains, you know, why Russian science is very different than where we are, but you know where we are right now in the world. Don't you find it a little bit amazing that the one place Russia and the United States get it along really well is in space? Didn't you see that we just brought an American astronaut home on the Soyuz Rocket? So remember what I told you. Light water and magnetism is big in space medicine. And it turns out, this is where our 2 governments actually seem to work well together because each government has a big time respect for the science that underpins life and biology. The problem is it's not allowed to be brought to the American public as it is in Russia because it would, how shall you say, unravel many of the things that underpin DARPA, which is the industrial military complex and big tech. If people really knew how dangerous big tech was with chronic abuse, you'd find out that all the things Bobby Kennedy and Nicole Shanahan are talking about in the United States, the chronic disease epidemics were actually brought to the world because of what general Burrough started in 1942.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:46:04]:
Fascinating to hear the history. Thank you so much for sharing that. I hadn't heard that part of it. I'm familiar with, what Bobby Kennedy is talking about and Casey and Kelly means, I went as well. And I think there is momentum in Washington to shed light on what is really going on. And hopefully, there will be a paradigm shift again by raising awareness. But I'd love to to tap into practicalities and and advice and and tips as well. Right? So around the lights, the water, the magnetism.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:46:35]:
Could you break down each of those, and and what are some practical modalities that you recommend from light exposure and and, you know, you're sitting outside in a beautiful location in, El Salvador, but from people maybe that live in cities, etcetera. What are things that are nonnegotiable that you would recommend everyone do? Obviously, avoiding blue lights. Yeah. Yes.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:46:57]:
The number the number one Pareto principle, 80% of your health and longevity is gonna be tied to seeing the sunrise every day, of your life from this day forward. That is nonnegotiable. So I don't care where

Claudia von Boeselager [00:47:13]:
you are.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:47:14]:
I don't care if it's raining. I don't care if it's cloudy. You get out and you look to the east. So what do I tell people? I tell people to make like the sphinx. Bye. The ancient people knew about this. At the 28th latitude, the sphinx faces the sun, all four extremities are grounded to the earth. You should do exactly the same thing.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:47:33]:
The problem is if you live in a city, you can't really ground to the earth really well because they put power lines below the ground. So you're gonna have to find a place probably using a body voltage meter to make sure that you're able to ground below. And the effective grounding again is, believe it or not, a quantum mechanical story. We're the only primates on the planet that have e crine sweat glands on our hands and our feet. That's designed to make a connection with the tectonic plates to get free electrons in there. If you know anything about what I told you earlier about Albert St. Georgi Becker and the leptin melanocort pathway? It's a semiconductor, program that needs electrons to operate. So anytime you can get free electrons, you get them.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:48:17]:
Most people know that electrons come from food. When foods are broken down, they're broken down to protons and electrons. That's really what food is. Food is an electromagnetic barcode of where you live on the planet. So for example, I'm assuming you live in Europe, high latitude, coconuts and pineapples don't grow there. So you have no business of going to the grocery store and eating them even though everybody, like Cali means and Cassi means tells you they're healthy. They're wrong. They're dead wrong.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:48:43]:
Mhmm. Okay? It has to be what photosynthesis provides for you at that latitude. So that makes diet really, really easy. You all you need to do is go talk to a farmer and say, what grows at my latitude? That's much easier to do, believe it or not, in Europe than it is in the United States. Why? Because in the 19 sixties, the industrial military complex centralized farming. Europe is now ongoing with that right now, which is why you have the farmers throwing, you know, manure at the politicians in every major capital, you know, in Europe for about the last 2 years. Why? Because they've ceded control to the World Economic Forum to try to do the same thing that they already did in the states there to get control of the food. And then I guess the last part, I've already answered with water.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:49:37]:
Most people don't realize that your mitochondria reverse the photosynthetic process that's present in plants. So most people in 3rd grade learn that plants work by taking c02 water and sunshine and turning into sugars. Your mitochondria reverse that process. So what does that mean? They take sugars, proteins, and fats and create water. And it turns out the water that you create isn't like the water in your tap. And what's the major difference? The major difference is an atomic, mass of hydrogen. Hydrogen comes in 3 formats on earth. Comes in light form is called protium, the second form, which has an extra neutron, is called deuterium, and the third form is a radioactive form, tritium.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:50:22]:
Tritium plays no role in biology at all, but it turns out deuterium and protium play a huge role. And it turns out mitochondria are racist. They don't like any deuterium. In fact, the ATPH, you can't put a deuterium through it, and that's by design, and you have to learn about how this works. It turns out the hydrology cycle on Earth makes total sense when you understand this deuterium protium story. So for example, people in Europe, you have a much better, water hydrology cycle. Why? Because it turns out the higher you get to the poles, water is deuterium depleted. The water at the equator is has a lot more deuterium in it.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:51:01]:
And that has huge implications for us. Why is it like that? It turns out deuterium depleted water works better with light and it's not encumbered by atomic mass. This goes back to the funny little guy from Bern in Switzerland named Einstein where equals mc squared actually elucidates why this is true. Mass is a big problem. Well, deuterium has double the atomic mass of light hydrogen. So it turns out for longevity, you need to learn about all those steps in biochemistry. Like I always tell people, have you ever wondered about all those steps in biochemistry and why it happens? It's very simple. It's to make sure that at the end, light hydrogen is in the water that the mitochondria makes, and that deuterium is kept in the blood.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:51:45]:
Mhmm. There's a biophysical reason for that as well. And when you begin to understand water from that, modus operandi, you begin to say, okay. This makes some sense. And then the last part that we really didn't talk that much about, which is I think the mysterious part of the 3 legged stool, magnetism. Mhmm. Most people know that magnetism, is a force. Light, the the force carrier of the electromagnetic forces is the is the photon.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:52:18]:
You know that photons have an electric field and a magnetic field. They're at 90 degrees to each other. But magnetism and biology is very different. It uses magnetic chemicals to control timing in cells. So for example, every single free radical that you've ever heard about in the longevity space, it's not what they tell you. In fact, free radicals are one of the single most important things because they are the things that determine how tissues make decisions between the TCA cycle, the PPP, glycolysis, or gluconeogenesis, and where those free radicals tells you. Now how can I explain to you simply that free radicals are magnetic chemicals? Very simple. Every free radical has an unpaired electron.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:52:59]:
Unpaired electrons, when you put them in an EPR machine which measures their magnetic moment, voila, you see it. So there's not one out there that isn't. And it turns out when you go through what I went through in 2005 to 2007, you look at all the key chemicals in the body, you'll find out something very interesting. The body tends to use atoms that are paramagnetic. What does that mean? Means they're drawn to a magnetic field. So again, you're beginning to see another side of of centralized medicine that you never got told in medical school, certainly not as a patient. And it turns out what's the most interesting paramagnetic atom on the periodic table? It's one that all of you are familiar with. It's called oxygen.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:53:44]:
Oxygen is drawn to anything that creates magnetic field. So when you look at the 5th cytochrome, which is called the ATPase, you'll notice that it has a current that comes in through electrons stolen from foods. It's called the electron train transport, then it's got this FO head that spins. This goes back to the English people listening to this will like this. This is Michael Faraday's idea about induction of current. It creates a magnetic field. So now fast forward to the 19 eighties nineties, we now have machines called MEG machines where we as neuro surgeons, which is what I do, I can measure the magnetic field over your brain and

Claudia von Boeselager [00:54:24]:
heart.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:54:24]:
It actually tells me how good your mitochondria are, tells tells us how impressive oxygen delivery will be to different areas. It'll give us clues about what's happening with the decisions in unpaired electron moieties like nitric oxide, hydrogen peroxide, the hydroxyl free radical, superoxide, all these things. And you begin to put all this together and you begin to realize that magnetism controls timing and timing controls how energy flows in a system. All these ideas are based on the physics that started with Helmholtz, Planck, Einstein, went through Ilya Pirugene, Fritz Papp. Like, I just gave you big time scientists all the way through the 20th century and probably ends in Richard Feynman because his science defines all this stuff. Now none of you listening to this have to believe that uncle Jack is telling you the truth. Why? Because the essence of nature in the 20th century was worked out by all of these scientists. And every time we've checked quantum mechanics, guess what we found out, millions of times.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:55:38]:
It doesn't lie. It's like a zero knowledge proof of biology. But guess what? Mhmm. That's not what the industrial military complex Correct. Wants you to know. So this is the reason why the practicality is gonna be different for people that live at the equator and then people live at at the, high latitudes. So to fully answer your question, because I am gonna cut to the chase, my people come from the 59th latitude. Okay? That's up where Edinburgh is in Ireland.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:56:10]:
Yet, I live at the 13th latitude. Why? Because of something I told you earlier. Longevity is determined by how much sunlight you get because sunlight creates how much water it might encounter your mates. So as Jack has gotten in his sixties, what has he done? He's moved from 59th latitude all the way to 13th as he's gotten older. And I just laid out to you why. Now if you're like you or your audience and you decide I'm gonna stay at high latitude, how do we do it? I did a podcast with a a young boy, 23 years old, named Owen Cheesby. He's from Edinburgh. I would tell you go listen to that podcast because I tell you how to live a high latitude life well and improve your longevity.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:56:54]:
Is it possible? I would tell you up until my belief, the 19 seventies, it was possible and easy to do. Mhmm. Now it's become very difficult because we've now invited technology into our lives, and that has reduced the margin of safety of high latitude living. The best, example of good high latitude living with longevity is found in the people of Iceland, and you'll be shocked to know why. Everybody knows this at 60 30 But why do they have good longevity? They live on a volcano, and a volcano delivers huge magnetic flux through the ground. And guess what used to happen in Norway and Sweden and, you know, Scotland and the UK? That hot spot has moved e or I should say east. Iceland is right where it is. So they get the benefit that used to be present in in, Scandinavia and the UK.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:57:52]:
So what are the remnants of those ideas that are left in the cultures of the people from Scandinavia and the UK? The embrace of, sauna through geothermal heating, and the other part is cold thermogenesis. Why? Mhmm. Just think about what happens in Russia, what happens in Finland and Scandinavia. People there will embrace the cold. It turns out the cold actually changes your mitochondrial DNA to make more light endogenously inside you, and you create more of those biophotons that Fritz Popp talks about. So what does that do? It turns on the key gene in humans called PAMC, stands for proopio melanocortin. Oh, see how that ties to the left melanocortin pathway? And it turns out that you create light inside of you that mimics what you're missing from the sun when you live above the 50th latitude. So you can do that.

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:58:46]:
But what destroys that? When you open a computer screen, that's blue lit. When you put Apple's things in your ears. You know, when you're constantly on your cell phone, you know, 18 hours a day, no. Those things then don't work, and then you get subject to the sausage grinder that is the people that run longevity, and they convince you to take all these supplements and do all this nonsense that is completely superfluous. Mhmm. Then eventually when you lose enough money and you get sick, you come and listen to a podcast that I've done, and I tell you why you've been lied to.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:59:20]:
So we know the sauna. We know the cold plunge. We know avoiding blue lights as well. What do you think of the EMF mitigation devices and and balancing with, like, a PMF mats? It's obviously not ideal to actually be in nature. But

Dr. Jack Kruse [00:59:33]:
Blue light is the number one EMF. People forget that if when you learn physics, and this is something that's not well known both in centralized medicine and longevity space, is there's only one way to mitigate non native EMF. That means everything outside the visible spectrum and the Schumann Resonance. It's called the inverse square law. That means you have to be far away from it. Okay? Mhmm. Now that's a real problem in continental Europe. It's a real problem in the United States.

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:00:05]:
So the United States is a little bit different than Europe. We have population centers and cities. So what the goal is since you know that each human now uses between 12 15 devices each, your goal should be to live in places where it's rural, where there's not a lot of cell phone towers. In fact, I'm one of the few people that tell you that a 5 g tower is not gonna hurt you when you don't have a lot of people around it. Why? Because if you understand the inverse square law, the more people that use the tower, the more it admits, that means the more you're getting irradiated. But if you only have 10,000 people in your town versus, say, Mexico City, which has 15, 16000000 people, you can see it doesn't take a rocket science to figure out why Mexico City is not as good as maybe your farm at the 52nd latitude because it turns out that the effect of non 80 VMF in a huge city at a better latitude offsets, you know, the what you think is the detriment. And this is the thing that really screws people up when they think about this. And that's why I tell people, I still believe you can do well at high latitudes if you understand how to hack EMF.

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:01:18]:
PMF mats, all that stuff, that is all bullshit. K? Mhmm. Subtract it all out. You can use them. I don't have a problem with that. But the more times you use their solutions, generally, you create problems. Why? Because I'll give you the example of the maths themselves. With the industrial military complex in the United States and in Europe, specifically, the guys that, work for Ericsson.

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:01:41]:
We've gone from CRG to 5 g. What's happened in CRG to 5 g? We've manufactured the wave fronts that we're using to communicate so that it can do some good things for the the cell communication tower. Turns out it's really bad for us. Why? Because it simulates jump conduction. So if you have an insulator or conductor anywhere around you, that wireless technology can jump onto that conductor and deliver it right to you. So when you begin to understand Becker's work and you understand that it's actually about a DC electric current and how light flows in your system, can you understand how stray voltages and stray signals get in there? It's it's almost like how I like to describe it to people. When you understand what Albert St. Georgi and Becker really said that we are a bag of semiconductors that are hydrated.

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:02:29]:
Mhmm. And if you know anything, like, the minimum about semiconductors, when they're made, they have to be done in a plant that's extremely clean. Why? Because semiconductors lose their efficiency if there's any dopants or pollution in them. And it turns out that's true in our semiconductors. Like, our bone semiconductors between collagen and apatite, we use 2 copper atoms to do that. Those 2 copper atoms pop off like they did in 1971 with the Russian scientist. Becker is the one that figured out why they died up in space. It's because those copper ions popped off because there was no protection from the magnetosphere up there.

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:03:07]:
No one's actually asked the question you just asked me. Could the same thing be happening on the surface of the planet now that we've gone from 0g to 5g? Guess what the answer is? Yes. That's exactly what's happening. And what happens is the real problem with supplements, the real problem with vaccines, the real problem with medications that we take is we are adding pollutants into a clean room of semiconductors, and that changes the signaling of the light that your mitochondria make. That changes everything about you. You begin to realize why Jack says the exact opposite of what everybody else says in the longevity space because it turns out they don't know the science as well as they should because what are we doing? We're using things that make us sick. General Groves in the industrial military complex and DARPA have sent all over the world. Now it has some good connotations.

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:04:04]:
It's allowing me and you to talk, you know, over the computer, but I want you to know that you have to go on a tech diet. That's the real big issue.

Claudia von Boeselager [01:04:14]:
And Detox. The things that

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:04:16]:
you try to use to mitigate technology, you're actually creating a bigger problem. So if you think those phone cases work, they don't. Okay? They don't.

Claudia von Boeselager [01:04:28]:
Yeah. Mhmm.

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:04:29]:
Nothing really helps except one thing, the inverse square law. So how do I describe the inverse square law to people who don't get it? Would you let your child stick their head in a microwave and then hit the popcorn button? Because that's effectively what you do when you give it an iPad. In fact, can I tell you the person that invented the iPad knows this, and can I prove it definitively? Oh, yeah. Steve Jobs. I tried. His biography. What'd he say? He said the iPad 2, they put a device in it so that when the device touches a child's skin, it turns off the Wi Fi signals. And you wanna know the crazy part of the story? Crazy part of the story, Apple never told anybody it was in there.

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:05:11]:
Why? Because if Apple would have told you that they had this in there, you would ask the next question that general Gross didn't want you ever to know about. Is this harmful for me? And guess what? That's the reason why general Grose and his buddy canceled Robert O'Bekker. That's the reason uncle Jack went to go visit Robert O'Bekker because guess what? After that 18 months spent really parsing out all this work and figuring it out, I realized I can't go through the same process that Robert O'Bekker went through. Now I'm at the end of my career, officially kinda retired, but a lot of people wanna hire me now. But I will tell you that I never had a lawsuit against me, never had any problems with my license anywhere. So did I successfully navigate the situation once I actually found the truth? The answer is yes. So what am I doing now? Now I'm the biggest agent provocateur you'll ever find. So what did I do? I brought all this information to a little country named El Salvador and sat down with their president and told them all the things that I'm telling you in this podcast.

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:06:20]:
And what did he ask me to do? I wrote a constitutional amendment for medical freedom for the president here a year ago, and guess who he shared it with? Bobby Kennedy, Nicole Shanahan. So you wanna know where MAHA started? Started a long time ago because of the meetings that I had with Bobby and Nicole. And now that information has been handed to Donald Trump. And you know that Nicole and Bobby are now part of the transition team. So remember what general Groves really did. He sent all this like MS 13 all over the world to harm people. Now I'm reversing the process. I'm giving the answers to the people who actually will be on the transition team to tie try to take the monster apart.

Claudia von Boeselager [01:07:12]:
So it's going back to nature, essentially. Right? So spending time in nature away from artificial life.

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:07:18]:
It's not for me. Let's let's talk about that. How much does that cost? Tell me. Tell me how much does that cost to your It's free. Alright.

Claudia von Boeselager [01:07:26]:
I mean, you have to live, but it's free. But but you

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:07:29]:
just have to refuel how you live. Right? You have to do things a little bit differently. You have to tell the dermatologist, how can I believe you anymore when you, Bill Gates, and the ophthalmologist are trying to block us from UV light? But yet, here's a a a tweet from doctor Kruse that shows every living thing emits low frequency UV light. Yeah. So explain this to me. They can't.

Claudia von Boeselager [01:07:53]:
They can't. They don't know. Confounded. They don't know. Damn. They don't know.

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:07:56]:
Guess what? You need to realize that the biggest gateway to modern chronic diseases is listening to Bill Gates, the dermatologist, or the ophthalmologist. You want longevity? Do exactly the opposite of what they tell you to do. That is the practical advice after the sunrise. K? The next thing is go drink to TRM depleted water. Next thing is try to live close to where volcanoes are because that'll help you. If you're really sick, the best place to be is inside a crater that has a lake. Now Mhmm. There's not a lot of those in Europe, but you do know there is some volcanism in Europe that's sitting in the Mediterranean.

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:08:40]:
So even though the southern met is 33 latitude, guess what? There's places there that are good. Here's the big problem in the Mediterranean. They put all military and navy radar on all the great islands there. So like Sardinia, Cyprus, you know, most of the coast of Greek, Greece, and Italy, it's mixed. It's a mixed bag. So Mhmm. That's the reason why everybody who's European goes to the the South of the men, they're like, it must just be that I'm on vacation. I feel better.

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:09:14]:
No. It's light water magnetism is way better there than it is in Northern Europe. Now are there exceptions? Why do the Alps work? Because the higher you go up on the mountain, the more UV light you get even though you're high latitude. Most people don't know that. But the problem is Switzerland is unapproachable for most Europeans because it's even more expensive than New York City, Los Angeles, or Chicago. You have to be uber wealthy, and then you'll find out that's the reason why all the people that go to Davos live in Switzerland and why they're telling you that you should reduce your carbon use while they fly their planes all over the world. You need to begin to realize that those people in Davos are tightly aligned with General Groves, DARPA, and the industrial military complex. They're the same guys tied to that guy, Gates.

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:10:05]:
I remember what I told you. Gates, dermatologists, and ophthalmologists. What do they all have in common? They wanna block the sun. Why? Because it's good for profits. Yeah.

Claudia von Boeselager [01:10:15]:
This has been such a pleasure, Jack. Thank you so much for sharing your extensive knowledge and for the history lesson as well that really went deep. I really appreciate that because, you're the first guest who's dug there. And I think that there is such a beautiful opportunity for people for things that don't cost that much to get back to nature, to be aware of the dangers. I think many of my audience are very familiar with the dangers of blue light and mitigating it, etcetera, but definitely takeaways of of rising with the the sun, regulating the circadian rhythms too. So I really, really appreciate you coming on and sharing that. Do you have any parting messages or thoughts or recommendations for my audience before we close today, Jack?

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:10:54]:
Yeah. Optimal health isn't a mystery. It's a choice. And all you have to do is choose to optimize light water magnetism. If you do that and you subtract out the superfluous from the centralized experts, you can do well and you can do well just about anywhere. You just have to be wiser than everyone else. And I'll end with this one to blow Darwin and Richard Dawkins up. Most of the longevity guys, optimal health or survival of the fittest is no longer about totally being fit.

Dr. Jack Kruse [01:11:28]:
It's survival of the wisest in a planet whose surface has been electrified. So be wiser about how you use the power grid and the things that plug into it, and you too can win and do very well in the face of the establishment.

Claudia von Boeselager [01:11:47]:
Beautiful. Jack, thank you so much for taking the time to come on today. It's been such a pleasure to have you on.