Claudia von Boeselager [00:00:00]:
Welcome dear audience, to another episode of the Longevity and Lifestyle podcast. I'm your host, Claudia von Boeselager, here to bring you the latest insights learnings to improve your health, life and happiness for longer. Thank you so much for being part of this tribe and make sure to sign up for my weekly free newsletter@llinsider.com My guest today is Dr. Nayan Patel, a well known pharmacist, health consultant and the founder of Aura Wellness, a company dedicated to enhancing health through innovative glutathione delivery systems. His innovative work has changed the way people think about improving health and longevity by raising natural antioxidant levels in the body. His 12 years of clinical research and expertise focuses on the importance of glutathione and often referred to as the master antioxidant, which plays a crucial role in detoxification and overall health maintenance. He has developed products like glutearyl and Glutaryl plus, which are topical sprays designed to deliver high doses of glutathione directly to the skin, enhancing absorption and efficacy. Please enjoy.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:01:08]:
Welcome to the Longevity and lifestyle podcast. Dr. Patel. Nayan, thank you so much for taking the time to be with us today.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:01:14]:
Well, it's my pleasure to be here today, so thank you for inviting.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:01:17]:
Oh, my pleasure. So Nayan, I want to dig into what inspired you to focus your research on glutathione and how did your journey in pharmacy lead you to this groundbreaking results?

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:01:30]:
Well, in the mid-90s when I first graduated from pharmacy school, it was kind of a exciting time in my life because first time, now I'm able to help people live the best years of their life with medicine and quickly realized that no, I mean, oh my goodness, all we were doing is managing people's problems. We're not solving any problems. And so quickly led to me and said, this is not the way I would like to live my life financially. It was not making sense either because the sick care model was not going to pay you anything. People are not going to willing to pay for just staying sick. People are willing to pay for getting healthy. I said, okay, if I want to make some financial resources, I want to gather those out for that I have to figure in a health business to see people healthy. And like everything else, you know, when you start looking at digging, research and try to figure out what's out there, what can, what, what can move the needle, right? And it all led to, to me is that, hey, I need to work on the master, master antioxidant glutathione and at that time it was kind of very, very difficult because people were talking about vitamin C.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:02:46]:
That's all they talked about is, hey, just, let's just get some vitamin C. And vitamin C research was like proliferating like crazy. Somebody came up to me and said, hey, can you make some liposome vitamin C? I said, what about glutathione? I said, no, give me some vitamin C. Not interested. What are you talking about?

Claudia von Boeselager [00:03:03]:
What are you talking about? It's all about vitamin C. What are you talking about?

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:03:05]:
It's all about vitamin C. And so we made the first liposome form of vitamin C in my lab. I said, you know what, let me just make some glutathione as well, just so that I have a second product as well ready. And I quickly researched that. It actually did not work very well. I may get the results I was looking for, like in some of the patients, but not in all the patients. And so I thought, there has to be a better, different way to do these things. And again, it's just one of those things that when you start looking at outcomes and if you're not getting the outcomes, you say that the medicine is bad, the medicine is good, the science is good, but the only thing we could not figure out is that is it going where it's supposed to be? And the example I give is about money, right? What good is money if it's stuck in a bond where you have no access to it? I want money in my wallet.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:04:00]:
I want money to be spent today. I don't care if my CD is going to mature in six months from today. I'm not sure if I'm going to be alive for that long either. And so I want money to be in my wallet now and so I can use it up. So what good is glutathione if the body doesn't have access to it? What good is it to us if the work the glutathione does is profound, but it's stuck in some part of the body that your body has no access to it? And so my job as a pharmacist try to figure out, can I get this glutathione molecule from anywhere outside the human body, inside the body where it's supposed to be, which is in the mitochondria? And so that's what led to all this research for me, sorry, it's a long read answer, but no, I loved.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:04:48]:
It and I want to dig into that. So what was, you know, take us on that journey from saying, okay, you know I understand that. Can we take it from external and bring it into the body, into the mitochondria, into the cell? How. How did that research, like, what was that journey for you? And what was the aha moment when you finally got it? Can you take us there?

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:05:07]:
Well, let me just tell you this one thing before I started to answer this question. I'm not as smart as you think I am. Okay. Only thing that I do know says.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:05:18]:
All the smart people in the world, by the way.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:05:21]:
All I can tell you is that we don't need too many smart people. We just need people that are highly observant because everything is around us. And guess what? We do. We don't observe everything. And so my job was just to keep on looking and at the science it was unfolding in front of my eyes. Right. And so my first job was to. Can I stabilize glutathione outside the human body in a.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:05:47]:
In a bottle? Right?

Claudia von Boeselager [00:05:49]:
Yeah.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:05:49]:
If it's stable in a bottle, I can figure out what to do next. Right. And so my first job was to just to create a stable product. And as you can know, glutathione is a. Is a tripeptide. It's a three amino acid coming together. One of the amino acids, which is cysteine, which is highly reactive. It gets oxidized really fast in the open air if it comes in contact with oxygen.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:06:12]:
So my first job was to put a chemical cap on the cysteine molecule. If I can put a chemical cap on there, that means it's still alive. It's not getting oxidized, but it is kind of staying stable so that it stays on the shelf for longer periods of time. So we have time to make it in the lab, get to the patients, use it for a month or two, and still have a chance of getting the results we're looking for. So that was my only goal I had. Right. And hopefully somebody else will take from that on and figure out what to do with it. So we figured that portion very early on in 2005, six, something like that.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:06:51]:
Very early on, we figured that portion out. And long story short, nobody was coming to my rescue. Oh, I'll take from here onwards, and I'll do all the work. No, nobody's gonna do that.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:07:03]:
Paddle your own canoe, as my grandfather would say.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:07:06]:
Where are they?

Claudia von Boeselager [00:07:06]:
I figured it out, and so I.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:07:08]:
Started putting my mouth. It tastes awful. It did not work. It did not work either because the levels were not rising. I scored in my nose, and it burned my nose off of a little bit it worked. But you know, nobody's going to put a burning stuff in the nose all the time. It's not very pleasant either. And so the only route I had left that I thought was going to be good was the skin route.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:07:34]:
But the skin route was a little bit more difficult to. Because the skin as a barrier is very protective of anything going inside, especially anything that is water based. Right. If it's an oil based kind of slow passive diffusion to the lipid layers of your skin can go slowly inside. But the water based product, forget about it. There's no chance. Right. Otherwise you blow up in the shower, you just come out of this whole big water bottle all over your body.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:08:00]:
Yes. That doesn't work. And so we were, we were tinkering around with, with another molecule. I said, you know what, there has to be a way to get through the skin somehow. And we saw some research done in Japan early on. I said, you know what, how about we do this with glutathione? It's never been done before. And so we did it. And like everything else, you make a product and if you don't get the results like immediately, ah, you know what, let me just shelf it.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:08:31]:
And so I had so many other things going in my life at that time. I was making all kinds of intravenous medications. I was preparing on, I was working with hypothalamic hormones and pituitary hormones and I was, I was going, I was, I was this crazy kid on with the lab. Don't be a crazy kid with a lab. I was making all kinds of medications trying to figure out how can I improve patients health. And so I make the product and I shelved it. And a year later when we're cleaning up the lab, I said, hey, let's just dump all the old stuff out. We looked at the product.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:09:04]:
I said, oh my God, this is still great. It still smells awful, right? It's still. Well, but it's awful. It's the same and about the same. Same time somebody in my lab had some kind of little burn in there, right. And of course we know the glutathione is great for burns. Rub it on. Right? It's just, we have this block.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:09:26]:
Rub it on. And to our surprise. Oh my God.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:09:30]:
Wow. What happened?

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:09:32]:
It, the burn pain went away. It like instantaneously. Wow. They applied for a couple more times and it completely healed the skin. I said, okay, what happened? Maybe it's a burn. So the skin is already damaged. So it kind of went through that part. It's not an issue.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:09:50]:
So quickly I figured, I said, you know what? Let me try myself. So I played myself and drew my blood. I said, what happens? Boom. The glutathione levels went up. And so it was. Even though we treated about a year ago, we never really tested because when you have too many things good in your life, you don't test every single thing. And that's when we had the aha moments. Oh, my God.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:10:14]:
We did create this one. It just. It was just too early on. We didn't believe that our science was solid and we didn't believe in ourselves. But we keep on observing results and we start seeing blood data that proved it to me that, okay, we did, we did accomplish our goal a year ago.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:10:34]:
That's so exciting. And I'm so glad that you decided to do some spring cleaning. Right. A year later.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:10:39]:
Yes.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:10:40]:
To realize what you had on your hands is all. So can you share with my audience? Perhaps there's people unfamiliar with glutathione, you know, you referred to as also the master antioxidant. What is it exactly? And what are some of these amazing benefits you were sharing about the burns, et cetera? But why do we want these high levels in our bodies to be maintained?

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:11:00]:
Yeah. So the glutathione, it's in the. In the chemical terms, it's just a tripeptide coming, three amino acid comings together. Peptides nowadays is the biggest buzzword in the world. People talk about peptides all over the world because they are the small building blocks that helps create this enormous amount of benefits in our health and wellness, in our longevity journey. And so this is the simplest form of peptide. It's the most abundantly produced peptide in our human body. And so what is known for is two things.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:11:35]:
One is an antioxidant properties, which is what it does. It gives up its electrons. The free radical, radical scavengers all over the body is hungry for an electron to get it neutralized. If not, then they're just going to bring havoc in our body. And so glutathione actually donates these electrons to kind of calm them down and get them neutralized. In that process, glutathione itself gets oxidized, and it doesn't get destroyed, but gets oxidized. And with the help of some something else, it can revive itself again. So there's a recycling process going on in glutathione as well.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:12:09]:
So that's one thing that is abundantly known everywhere. The second part is still learning, but we do, we do know a few things about. Glutathione is the master detoxifier. And what it does is that it helps identify chemicals that are not part of the human production. Right? Because we produce all the chemistry, all the chemicals that we need, we produce internally. We don't need to take from outside sources, Right. Only thing we take from outside sources are the building blocks that say, hey, give me all the nutrients I need and I'll make my own stuff. Right? But some of the chemicals, they're not producing internally, and there's a byproduct of a chemical reaction has to be neutralized and get rid of them.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:12:52]:
So the glutathione helps identify those chemicals, helps them neutralize it. Neutralize it and help them get rid of it. And that process is actually the most profound process that I think in my history of says, hey, antioxidant is great. I can take some vitamin C. You know, I can do other things like that. But what I cannot do is have somebody get rid of all the toxic chemicals out of my body, because there's nothing much out there, right? And so that, to me, led to a lot of different things. But in the simplest term, that's what glutathione is. And we produce so much of it that my research led to me is to figure out, I said, when do we need it? Can your body produce enough? You know, do I have to supplement with the glutathione, or can I just improve my diet? Can I do other things to make sure my levels never drops? Right, yeah.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:13:48]:
So let's. Let's touch on that. And this particularly we just to highlight a point about, you know, excreting those chemicals in our body. And I think now more than ever, people are waking up to the awareness of the amount of toxins that we have in the. From the pesticides in our food to our environmental toxins, et cetera. So our body's being constantly pounded with it, and hence antioxidants like a glutathione are all the more important. But let's look at, you know, is it. What are the different factors that help with glutathione? Right.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:14:16]:
Can it be through lifestyle exercise, or do we have to take it as a supplementation? And how does that vary as we age?

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:14:22]:
So if you think about it, by the time you wake up and leave your house for the morning job, you're exposing yourself with about 70 different chemicals, from hair products to face products, to brushing your teeth and putting all kinds of chemicals on our body, ingesting internally It's a lot of chemicals that our body has to process as soon as we wake up. Right. And so the two things that I always recommend is in order for you to be rich with glutathione in your body, is you to reduce expenses. The only way you get rich is you don't spend enough money. Right? So if you get rich in glutathione, spend, spend less of the glutathione on some things that is avoidable, Right. If you can avoid using full of chemical toxic products on your, on your body, avoid as much as possible. I don't say avoid every single thing because you still have to live your life, but avoid as much as possible. Yeah, right.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:15:33]:
And we know the solvent, which is, we drink knowingly and it comes in like a thousand different flavors and they taste really good, which is alcohol. But in reality it's just a solvent. As a chemistry guy, I'm telling you it's a solvent and solvents are not good for you. Right. But just because it's flavored so beautifully, I said, oh my God, this is amazing. It's still a solvent. And the body use up all your glutton reserves to kind of neutralize it, break it apart and try to get rid of it. Right.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:16:05]:
Just a point on that. Right? So people listening, they're like, oh, Dr. Patel, I like my glass of wine on a Friday night, so what should I do? Right? And obviously we've talked about, you know, non alcohol use and alternatives on the podcast before, but what would you recommend? Is it like if you know you're going to go out for a drink or a few drinks on a Friday evening, do you stock up in advance on the glutathione or is it on the Saturday then you take your glutathione, what would you recommend? Or both.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:16:33]:
Both, Both, Absolutely both. Because glutathione actually does not get rid of the buzz. What it does it process the alcohol in your liver. So I would do both. I would apply the glutathione before you go for the night out and as soon as you come home, you're still buzzing and apply it afterwards. So I stopped drinking. But when I used to have a glass of wine or something like once or twice a month, I would probably apply about triple or quadruple the dose before I said drink. Even if I have two glasses of wine, even one glass wine, I'll apply like triple or quadruple the dose before I start drinking.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:17:16]:
And maybe another half a dose, another like a double. But that's A half, half of the highest amount I took maybe double the dose again after I stopped drinking. So within, like within four hours. Right.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:17:30]:
So that's how potent alcohol is essentially. It's so depleting.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:17:34]:
It is so depleting. And make sure that people need to hydrate themselves because it, it does, it does take away a lot of the water out of the system and so make sure to drink lots of water as well. But yeah, that's, that was my protocol when I used to drink. But now that I've stopped drinking, I don't have to worry about it. But I do have to worry about it because when I travel a lot, I do travel a lot and going from conferences to conferences every day, almost every week I'm out of town and I do have to load up myself with lots of glutathione because my oxygen stress is extremely high.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:18:11]:
So I think that people to note also maybe you can explain, right, so why is travel such an impact for glutathione levels? Maybe you can expand on that.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:18:21]:
So I will explain that as well. Let me just finish up the first question you asked. I want to go in the orders. I don't know if people lose the audience either. So anyway, stop the expenses. That's number one. Number two is that make sure your diet is healthy enough that contains the three amino acids, glycine, glutamine and cysteine that in your diet will help produce enough lion. So I would say majority of the people, they don't have a gene mutations, they don't have a gene SNPs, they don't have any issues with production of glutathione.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:18:56]:
They should be able to take those amino acids, give it to the body and the body takes those amino acids, combine them together with two ATP molecules, one NAD molecule, two enzymes. I mean there's a process behind that, all the process and the the body will make its own glutathione. And trust me, you don't have to do anything except for eating healthy diet body will take care of the rest. And so either have a proper diet or make sure you reduce expenses or do both. I would absolutely do both. Even by doing both of them together and having completely clean life about the age of 30, 35ish, your body's actual need for glutathione and what your body can produce, there's a slight difference. Your body can 35 even, even at the age of 30, 35, it starts, I'm not sure the exact exact time. Everybody's a little bit different, but about the age of 30 to 35 is when we start seeing the discrepancy between how much your needs are and how much your body can produce.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:20:00]:
Because like it or not, we're still not going to give up our modern day conveniences ever. Right? And so there's always going to be some little bit of oxidative stress, always going to be there and ability to produce enough glutathione. It's there, but it's not going to keep up with the demand all the time. As we start aging and the energy production goes down as well, the ATP production goes down, entity production goes down in our body as well. So there's slight discrepancy that happens. And then what happens? The discrepancy over time gets doubled in the differences. Because now your needs are higher because you have more toxins and you can produce enough glutathione, the needs are getting higher and higher and higher. And so supplementation may become advantageous at that point.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:20:50]:
And so having the right supplementation that actually improves the glutathione levels without having the body do the extra work is what my research was. And I mean if you look at oxidative stress, the question you asked me about traveling oxidative stress is, I mean we all know oxygen is causing oxidative stress, right? But we cannot tell everybody to stop breathing. We still need oxygen. Right. Nitrogen is bad for you, but I mean without nitrogen nitric oxide, your body cannot function. So even though these are all good gases that we need in our body, excess is what I'm talking about. Or after the job is done, they need to be neutralized and get rid of it. That's what I'm talking about.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:21:38]:
So even though they're good for you, it's how long it stays inside the body is what I'm worried about. And when you're traveling, you go in this aluminum chute, so to speak, in a 30,000ft up above the earth and you basically have zero protection against cosmic rays. And that's another issues. The people that fly the most are the one that exposed to a lot of cosmic rays. We have little protection against from ozone layer. And so we have to worry about what kind of mutations are we going to get because have overexposure to cosmic rays. And again there's plenty of studies that are out there that talks about that the more you fly, the faster you age. And so my job is that I'm going to do whatever it takes to make sure my antioxidant levels are super High.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:22:35]:
I mean, when I travel and this is my own experiment. Okay.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:22:40]:
Yeah. What's your protocol, Sherry?

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:22:42]:
I usually apply about four sprays of my product twice a day at my home. That's all I use. Anything more than that, I get the sense that it's too much because if you have too much of glutathione, it gets you rashes and itching all over the body. That means you have too much of glutathione. And so. But when I travel, I'll probably put down at least triple or quadruple the dose twice a day.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:23:06]:
Wow.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:23:07]:
And I still don't get rashes.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:23:10]:
Wow.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:23:11]:
And so fast. Yeah. So I was talking when I was doing my own research, I said, hey, this is crazy. When I travel, I can apply as much as I want and I don't see any levels of toxicity in my body, but if I apply the same amount at home, oh my God, it's just full of rashes. Right. So I know it's too much at home because I'm much more calmer, quieter, you know. Plus my dog comes and gives me hugs, so my stress goes down extremely low. You're happy.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:23:44]:
But yeah. So traveling is. Is put a lot of oxygen stress. And when I, when I were on the airport in the plane, I cannot stop noticing how many people pound alcohol. It doesn't matter if it's five in the morning or five in the evening or midnight. It doesn't really matter.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:24:04]:
I've noticed this too.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:24:07]:
If I got lucky and got into business class, people are pounding down on alcohol like this, free alcohol. So it's not free. Your body's paying the price. Your body is paying the price. And so I don't judge people for that particular reason, but I do see that people do need help. And I'm hoping that those people that are traveling a lot, consuming alcohol on the flight and before they go on the flight to up their glutathione levels.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:24:39]:
Yeah, for sure. I want to understand the different modalities. So you said you were testing it in your mouth and in your nose. And your nose. And then on your skin as well. There are other modalities of mixing it in water, etc. Like what is your view on the different modalities of delivery of glutathione? And you've landed on spraying. So I assuming that that's the most effective or what would you say?

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:25:03]:
Well, the spray was. Again, I. You let the science lead you because nothing else was working. And so when we apply the skin is when we found out that it was working through the skin. But before that, in 1999, we made the first liposomal form of flu thion, which is the people. It's a. It's a orange yellowish liquid that you encompass. The glutathione inside bypasses the stomach, so it has a very good chance of absorption through the intestines.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:25:28]:
That was the whole purpose of making Liposome technology product. But when we saw that it worked a lot of patients, it did not work on everybody. So I couldn't pinpoint it down as to why this was not working on everybody, why wasn't only working on certain people. The research was kind of spotty at that time. People say that, hey, if you take glutathione, you're going to get all these results. I said, okay, I can see the results are coming in, but how, how is it getting there, right? Is it. Can I get the results on every single human being on this planet? Right? And the medication will tell you, oh, this does not work on everybody, only works on some people. And my job as a pharmacist said, why? Where does it need to be and can I get there? Right? And so Liposome did not work for me.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:26:18]:
And later on in 2011, the researchers did some trials and they found out was actually the liposome form of glutathione. It did work on people that it raised the levels like a couple of weeks later. But the way it was doing is it was that when you take them by mouth, the body actually broke down the peptide into amino acids. Amino acids gets easily absorbed and that amino acid gets crosses the skin barrier or the cell barrier. It gets inside your cell and that's where the body takes those amino acids and makes into glutathione again.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:26:53]:
Oh, okay.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:26:54]:
And so I said, okay. Even though I knew was something was not right, somebody else did the research in 2011 to prove that point. So I moved on from liposome form in, in 2001 to injectable form of fluathion. And so I said, hey, you know what? I'm just going to inject it straight into the bloodstream, right?

Claudia von Boeselager [00:27:15]:
Yeah.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:27:15]:
So we were making the injectable form of glutathione and in general form of glutathione. There was a research study in 1991, which I was not aware of it because I didn't, I didn't get the research on time. And I saw the glutathione. I can give any dose I wanted to give them and people will feel fine. There was no Side effects from. I said, okay, then why was there no issues with it in 1990 when the research was done, when they gave a big dose of glutathione, like 2 grams of glutathione, which is a very, very high dose of glutathione. And what they found out was that in the, when they drew the blood, everything, all the glut that was in the plasma, which is not the blood cells, but the water part of the blood, it was there and nothing was in the blood cells. I said, okay.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:28:01]:
But they also saw an increase of cysteine in the blood. Where did the cysteine come from? We didn't give any cysteine. So the researchers concluded that glutathione was actually getting broken down and the cysteine was getting reabsorbed. And so even though it worked, even though it worked, what do you care if it's working by cysteine or glutathione? Hey, it works, right? So people that say, as long as it's working, I'm fine, leave it alone. Let's not reinvent the wheel. And so I was making the Glutathione IVs, and for a long time, for 20 years, I was making it. And the results were sporadic, Right? There's one doctor who did research on Parkinson's who inject a big dose of glutathione, got great results, but did not get the results on every patient, or maybe the patient did not have glutathione deficiency. That's why the Parkinson's a little bit different.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:28:58]:
And for me, it did not jive very well. Right. And so my thing was always been looking for, I said, hey, how does it actually, actually work? And so all this technology that's out there, capsules, liquids, injections and topicals and whatever. Right. Unless you have a technology that can actually bypasses the skin barrier. The cell barrier, which is cell barrier, is more intact than the skin. The skin you can laser off, you can put it in a sauna and open up the pores. You can break the skin with some needles and just pour it in there.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:29:34]:
You can break the skin barrier.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:29:36]:
Yeah.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:29:36]:
But you cannot break the cell barrier. And so getting from a skin barrier into the cell barrier into the intracellular level, that's what it needs to be. And so with our technology, and again, it was so far ahead of the schedule because the world was not ready yet. When I first discovered 2007, we were not ready because there was no literature out there to support what I was doing. And So I said, I cannot release this product to the public because I don't know what to do. I just did not know what to do. It took me 13 more years to work on it with countless physicians all over the United States and a few people outside the country as well, and tried to give me some data as to, hey, this is the, this is how it's working. This is what's work, this is what's working.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:30:22]:
It's not working. And so 13 years of research. Finished writing my book because I had to keep. I had documented every single thing I did. So I finished my book with all the stories that I got from my patients and all the results I got from my patients. And then eventually we launched the company knowingly, very well that this product is. If it goes in your skin, there's two things have to happen. It has to feel good, it has to smell good.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:30:49]:
And my product smells like rotten eggs and feels extremely sticky.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:30:58]:
It didn't tick the boxes essentially, but we know how toxic perfumes are, so maybe it's good that it doesn't have a smell.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:31:06]:
Exactly. But so anyway, so that's where we are at. And so there's a lot of technology products that are out there. This is the only one that actually bypasses all the barriers and get inside where it's supposed to go, where the results are going to be sort of instantaneously. Now, nobody. And when I say instantaneous results, what I'm talking about is that there's certain subset of people and this is again, this is the last 10 years of research that's coming out now. Right. Over the last 10 years, the gene testing, or the gene SNPs testing, it's become so affordable.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:31:41]:
Before, it used to cost you five to $10,000 and only able to the rich and famous, right? And even if they did the testing, the doctors had not learned all the different things they can do. Right? And so. But today the same test cost you 500 bucks. So a lot of people are doing some gene SNPs testing, some GPX testings, they're called all DNA type testing companies out there right now, they do all these testings. And what we are finding out is there's a huge subset of people that cannot conjugate glutathione. So you can take all the products in the world that gets broken down, absorb the cysteine and remix it again. And if your body cannot make it again, guess what, you're out of luck.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:32:27]:
Yeah, there's no point. So how do you help those People.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:32:36]:
With, with our product, the one we created, it doesn't rely on any conjugation pathways.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:32:43]:
Yeah.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:32:43]:
So it goes through your skin, goes.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:32:45]:
Into the skin, leapt.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:32:48]:
It's like you had to work to get your money in your wallet. Imagine that. Right. Well, in that case, I'm going to become lazy. I said, yeah, that's up to you. But yeah, most the body doesn't become lazy because there's a glutathione coming to your body completely intact to be used. Because keep in mind, to make glutathione, you need energy. You need two ATP molecules and one NAD molecules.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:33:13]:
And that ATP NAD is used in literally millions of chemical reactions in your body every single day. So if we have all this energy that you are saving from producing glutathione, which is the number one molecule in your body now, that energy has been used to help get all the other chemical reactions in your body optimized. And so over time, you start seeing the results. Within two weeks, four weeks, eight weeks, two months, and three months later, your body's getting optimized over and over again.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:33:47]:
Amazing.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:33:48]:
So that's what this is all about, is that I'm not saying that this is going to. I am saying that it's going to increase your lifespan or your longevity, but what I'm saying is that your body is resilient enough to regenerate and rejuvenate as the time goes by, because now the biggest molecule the body produces has been delivered. And by doing so, I'm sparing all this energy. That energy is used to have all the other body functions work efficiently.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:34:20]:
So exciting. And can you share some of your favorite clients and patient stories from over the years that really blew you away or, you know, your favorite ones? What would they be, Nayan?

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:34:32]:
Well, there's two or three because these are all my family members because they were the only one who had access to it for the last 15 years, plus. Right. So my dad, bless his soul, he's not with us today. It was an unfortunate death, but I'll tell you his story. It's just absolutely amazing. So at the age of 78, he had type 2 diabetes, he had arthritis, blood pressure issues. He was traveling, I believe Australia or New Zealand for about a couple of months, and he went for a vacation. He was single because my mom passed by 25 years ago, so he was single.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:35:08]:
So he was traveling the world like just. He was. It was a chore for him. So when he goes someplace, he probably kind of settles in. He doesn't want to fly for one week or so. Right. Settled in, good for him. He came back.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:35:20]:
He came back and had a lot of shortness of breath. And so we scheduled an angiograph and what we found out, his main artery was completely blocked. Wow, 99% blocked. And the doctor goes, oh my God, how the hell did you survive in the first place? So put a stent in there, of course, list of medication came out from the hospital, comes home and my dad goes, what do I do? I said, well, one thing is you don't have a cholesterol issue, so why are you taking anti cholesterol pills? Your blockage was not because of cholesterol, but something else. And so your oxygen stress was very, very high because of arthritis and diabetes. And so I said, dad, we have this molecule. We just discovered it in my lab and I'm going to be using. You're my first patient.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:36:05]:
He goes, well, whatever, whatever you think is right for me. Right? So of course I didn't take him off all the medications, but I gave him some medications and started using the glutathione two years later. We didn't even think about it. We were just sitting down. And he was 80 at that time. And he goes, you know what, I really feel good now. And so I said, dad, you do look good. You know, you do look good.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:36:31]:
I think it's that it's a stress, your mental stress is down because everything is functioning fine. And then told me, he showed me his data because he was doing his blood sugar testing. My sugar has not risen in over a year.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:36:44]:
Wow.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:36:45]:
I said, what? I said, yeah. I said, okay, let me go to the doctor's office. I do a three months test and say that his levels were normal, like normal diabetes.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:36:55]:
He's reversed his diabetes.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:36:57]:
Well, it's not reversing, it's what it is, it's reverses insulin resistance resistance.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:37:02]:
Okay.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:37:02]:
Because he still became a diabetic again. When he had a surgery on his knee like 10 years later, he still became a little bit diabetic for about six months again. So the diabetes does not go away, but you go into some what we call remission, right?

Claudia von Boeselager [00:37:16]:
Remission. Okay.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:37:17]:
So he went, he went backwards. It was two years later. I figured, okay, amazing, what else? And he goes, you know what, I have no pain in my joints. I said, okay. I said, I'm walking six miles per day now. He was walking six miles a day at the age of 80. He was doing gardening in the backyard. You know, California, beautiful weather.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:37:37]:
We do gardening in the backyard. He Wants to grow fresh tomatoes and all those eggplants or whatever he wants to do. Amazing, right? So he works in the backyard. He does everything. And I started noticing that, oh, my God, he's getting healthier and healthier. And he started getting comments from all his friends. I said, what are you doing? I said, you look so healthy. And his hair was always there.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:38:01]:
He's not like me. He had a full set of hair until the day he died. And so that was the best thing I could have seen. And then fast forward to this year. He just passed away this year at the age of 89. And he was traveling the world. He started traveling everywhere, Right. Everything picks the bags and just leaves.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:38:21]:
Right. He goes to India, goes to Africa, and comes back over here after three months. But he does everything by on his own. At the age of 88, 89, he was still traveling, doing everything on his own. Open the house, get the people to come and help him clean up the house and get all the things. Just groceries and food. He takes care of everything on his own. He doesn't need any help from anybody.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:38:45]:
And at one point, he had. We had. His hands were kind of weak because of arthritis, and his type 2 diabetes was out of control. He was a little bit overweight. Now he's completely back in weight, was back to normal. And then he went a little crazy. This year, I think he had some street food, he got diarrhea from it, got dehydrated, and boom, fell down, broke his skull, and a day later, he was gone.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:39:12]:
Oh, I'm so sorry.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:39:13]:
Even half an hour before he passed away, even half an hour before he FaceTimed all of us, he was talking to us like, he was talking to us like. Like, I'll be there next week. Don't worry about it. Right?

Claudia von Boeselager [00:39:26]:
Yeah.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:39:27]:
And so even today, I feel so comfortable talking about him is because you know why I don't feel like he's gone? You have no memories. I have zero memories from him. For him. For him suffering. Zero.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:39:41]:
Yeah.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:39:42]:
Right. Even though half an hour before he passed on, he was talking to us like there was no end. Right.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:39:48]:
And full of energy and vitality and all the rest of it, too. Yeah. So, so sorry.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:39:52]:
I mean, so that was so. It was tragic. But at the same time, guess what? I want that death.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:39:59]:
Well, very true. Exactly. If you're gonna go, go like that.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:40:02]:
Yeah.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:40:02]:
Yeah.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:40:03]:
Pick me up from a golf course. Pick me up from somebody where I'm enjoying my life and doing what I love to do when my time is up. Please. Don't give me disease. Just pick me up and I'm okay with it.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:40:14]:
Yeah, I'm with you. I agree.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:40:16]:
Right. That's my favorite story. The second story that I have was I had a. I had a mom with a autistic child that the. I'm sorry.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:40:28]:
No, it's okay. Take. Take your time.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:40:30]:
Yeah, I. I had an autistic child and the mom was absolutely. Hasn't slept for seven years.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:40:37]:
Wow.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:40:38]:
Because the kid was just too hyper and would not go to sleep. And just imagine the parents haven't slept for seven years. It's kind of distraught a little bit, right. They used the glutathione and in two weeks I got a humongous. I said, I just woke up. I slept for seven hours for the first time. And so, you know, that really tells it. And when the story comes around, you're so ready to.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:41:08]:
Oh, my God, I didn't launch this product. I didn't launch this product, Right. And I said, oh, no, I gotta wait. I gotta wait. I have to wait. And so, so many different things like that happened. One more story was there was a billionaire client in Utah and he was wheelchair bound, suicidal because he had the neuralgias, which was secondary to some viral infection he had years ago. And because of the virus infection, he developed neuralgias in his lower extremities.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:41:35]:
He couldn't walk. Right. And all the money in the world, I mean, he can fly anyone in his private jet, right? Anywhere he wants to go. And he had 24, seven watch because he would have killed himself because the way he was suffering. Offering. And 30 days later, he got out of his wheelchair with a cane. Oh my God.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:41:55]:
Wow.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:41:55]:
Just imagine I'm getting call from his lawyer to try to figure out what can I do to help you.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:42:02]:
Wow.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:42:03]:
Right?

Claudia von Boeselager [00:42:03]:
That's amazing.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:42:04]:
And I wish I took some help from it because I was not ready yet. Because I never thought that people would be willing to pay me to do more research. Right. Because until now nobody had paid me ever. And so I started looking at that kind of this. I said, okay, you know what? And then shortly after that, he passed away because he had some other disease. He was already 91 years old. But for him to walk for the first time at the age of 91 was like, amazing.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:42:28]:
Is incredible. Anyways, I can go on.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:42:32]:
It's so, so exciting. So my mother in 2020 had a very bad fall. She had. It turned out then there was blood clots in her legs that went to her lungs. Her blood oxygen levels were so low caused her to faint, but she must have really fallen like a plank open the back of her head. She had hemorrhaging, but in the ventricles, not in the brain matter, thankfully. But anyway, so it was this whole series of events as well, and it propelled her dementia. So my audience is familiar with this fact.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:42:59]:
And last year she had a fall and she was in hospital and they kept her in for a week and she essentially forgot how to walk. And now she's been in a wheelchair since. And I'm listening to this and I, like, I need to get her more glutathione. Like, let's. Let's try this. Yeah. And to see what's possible. I mean, is there any situations that it's.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:43:19]:
It's not helpful. And would you recommend to many people suffering different things to just give it a try, just to take it and see, you know, how it impacts them? Or would you. Are there some cases, would you say you have to, you know, keep away from it?

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:43:34]:
So if you have physical damage. Right. If you have physical damage, like if you have a broken arm. Arm. It's not a broken arm. So it's not a. It's not a physical issue. It's a chemistry issue.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:43:45]:
Yeah. And so anybody. So I always go back to why people die today. Right. So if you look at the top 10 cause of death in the world, and if you take one of them out of them, which is number four or three, or number four is accidents. Right. If you take it out of there, the. All the other nine causes are linked to oxidative stress.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:44:10]:
Right. And so for the oxidative stress, our body is well equipped to deal with it by producing enough glutathione. And so when I say that can gluten help with any diseases or any conditions or any issues that you have? I have absolutely zero idea how oxygen stress is manifesting in your body. And so I always tell people that try it because I have no idea how it's going to help you. But if you're going to try this part, be extremely diligent to know and reflect on yourself to see what changes are happening in your body. And that's the most difficult part because most people don't even know what they have. Right.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:45:01]:
Yeah.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:45:02]:
When I say somebody that, hey, you do look a little overweight. Am I? I never noticed that part. Right. I mean, they're not overweight at all, but sometimes they're a little bit overweight. Oh, I didn't notice that part because they don't see themselves in the mirror. Good. Long enough to understand. Okay, I have this, this, this issues, physical issues, what you see with your eyes, they notice that part.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:45:27]:
Oh, I have a spot over here. My wrinkles getting over here. They notice those kinds of things. But what they do not notice is how the body is deteriorating in terms of energy because of the subtle changes, how the body's not able to function as normally as like you used to before. Why can I bend my current or twist my body like I used to do before? And so everything is kind of settling in as you age and you're accepting the fact that you're aging. Right. And so I tell everybody, give it a shot, you got nothing to lose. We do offer 100% money back because I have no idea how it's going to help you.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:46:05]:
And if you look at the stories I get, I get every single day, my phones, I get emails on my phones from my staff. Anytime I get a success stories or a failure, please, please, please email it to me directly. So I see my staff forwards everything to me. And I get so much joy out of that. Because the reason I'm doing all this work is, guess what? Because I want to change people's lives. Right? That's the whole purpose of it. I'm still a pharmacist. I still have a pharmacy.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:46:35]:
I still work in a pharmacy as well. I still see patients, well, not so many, but I still work with doctors and help design drug plans for everybody, even today's day. But the real joy comes in when somebody emails me and said, oh my God, I heard you on this podcast. And my life's changed. That's why I do, that's why I do what I do today.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:46:58]:
Yeah. And having that strong why is amazing. And when you have a product that, you know, has such an amazing impact and with this glutathione peptide is just so exciting as well. And what is some areas where you wish people would know more about it and particularly around maybe healthcare practitioners, you know, why is it not more widely spread? Like, what would you like to see in the next months and years in terms of knowledge, information distribution around glutathione?

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:47:26]:
Well, my urge right now, I'm heavily, heavily interested in educating the physicians at this point. I do this kind of interviews with a lot of podcast celebrities. And the reason is because I do want to make sure the masses get, get first experience as well. Because doctors honestly don't have time to talk to the patients anymore. They just don't have time. But I want them to recommend this product. And when they recommend this product, I know for a fact they don't have time to explain all the benefits of it. And so talking like this today is basically all you're doing for me at this point is you're just reinforcing what the doctor just told the patient that, hey, this is what you need.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:48:16]:
Right. And they can listen to us and say, okay, now I understand why my doctor told me to take this product. Right? Because doctors just, they just write prescriptions. Hey, here's a prescription. Go get your pharmacy and pick one up. This is not a prescription item. It's over the counter. And so the doctor says, use this product.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:48:33]:
Well, what am I supposed to do with it? What am I going to feel? How am I going to do? And the doctors honestly don't have time to do the experiment. So my job is to educate the physician first. So they're willing to recommend because they're the one going to be looking at all the markers, doing the blood test and see the improvement. Right. And when they see the improvement, they know exactly where it came from.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:48:56]:
Exactly right. Can you share where people can find the products and the name of it, et cetera? Yeah.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:49:02]:
The product name is called Glutaryl. And I'm so sorry, if you give a pharmacist to name a product, they're going to give a chemical name to it. This is glitter.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:49:12]:
And we'll link it in the show notes for everybody listening or watching.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:49:16]:
The website is aurowellness.com a u r o wellness.com and of course, there are a lot of women consumers that are out there. They are altered into the skin health. And so the same technology, guess what? I can deliver a lot of different molecules inside your, inside all your cells. So we get a whole skincare line as well with it, same exact product, same exact technology. I can deliver vitamin C, CoQ10L, carnosine, resveratrol, sextrogenol, DMA and glutathione, everything for your skin.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:49:53]:
Amazing.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:49:53]:
Because skin is only 6 square inches, but yet requires a lot of nutrients. You don't have enough space to put up 10 different creams. So our technology, we can combine everything and give you some small regimen as well. So anyways, that's.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:50:09]:
And you have white skin, so thank you. Clearly it works very well as well.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:50:14]:
One thing I want to mention before I, before we do anything further is that people always ask me about longevity. I said, what can I do to increase longevity? Right. Is there a longevity product? And I said, if you live longer, I mean, it's simple, right? It's simple. Just don't die. And a lot of people die prematurely. Like last 20 years of the nursing home, they already dead 20 years ago. Right. Even the physical body is gone today, but they were dead a long time ago.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:50:47]:
So please don't die. Listen, right? Listen to you, listen to other people, listen to everybody, live a long life and, and hopefully that I will be able to give you the joy and the pleasure to use your body, the physical body, by reversing some of the toxic load that has been out there. So hopefully you can enjoy the body as well while you're still living your life.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:51:12]:
Oh, beautiful. Yeah, exactly. I think it's really making the health span, right? Living in the highest version of yourself today for as long as possible. So I think people sometimes like, oh, longevity and who wants to be 150? And it's not about, about reaching a certain age for me at least it's more about living those beautiful years of vibrant energy really well for as long as possible, whatever that number might be. And then as you shared in the beautiful story with your father, then I think, you know, quick, a quick ticket out, that's it is not a bad thing. Exactly. Let's talk about some emerging antioxidant research. Is there any research that are areas that you're really excited about, do you expect to see in the next sort of one to three years?

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:51:57]:
So in my lab with this technology now, I can, I can work on peptides, I can work on some other molecules. We have worked on NAD molecule at this point. We have a stable NAD product in my lab at this time. For the last four or five years we've been testing it out on ourselves. I'm not too happy yet. And if I'm not too happy, you know, I'll never release a product until I'm fully convinced it's going to do some great things for you. So I'm not too happy. So with some more work to do, we are working on another GHK peptide.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:52:38]:
That one is ready now. We've been testing it out for a couple years as well. And that one shows some promises out there. And so we are working on that as well. We have a couple more peptides that we work working on some fish proteins as well. Because I need to do both ends. I need to also take care of the skin for beautification. But a lot of the stuff the skin needs, but skin is the largest organ we have.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:53:05]:
So whatever your skin needs, so does your heart, so does your liver, so does Your lungs. And so I don't see a skin as just for beautification. I'm seeing skin as an organ. I say, hey, what does the skin need? Needs and can I get the same thing for other organs as well? And so I'm working on those few different peptides right now. If I get another maybe one or two products in my lifetime would be, I'll see myself accomplished and hopefully somebody will take on my research from here onwards and to create more products for you guys in the future.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:53:38]:
Yeah, maybe someone listening here is like, oh, this is a great idea.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:53:41]:
Yeah, exactly.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:53:42]:
I'll get in touch and I'll ask you shortly where people can find you. But I want to, I'm curious, like, what are your. Your daily habits, daily routines, daily rituals to keep you in such vibrant health and thriving and doing so many amazing things?

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:53:57]:
So right before I came here, I probably had at least 2 liters of water in the first because as soon as I wake up in the first two hours, I'll probably have at least two to three liters of water.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:54:11]:
And with fresh lemon or just purified water.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:54:14]:
Purified water. Well, recently I'm drinking the hydrogen water, I'm testing it out. I see a lot of benefits on the literature out there. I personally have not noticed a lot of benefits. And again, that's why I'm very into the own body, trying to understand every single thing, how it works and how it does not work. So I'm not pooping the idea about hydrogen water at all. All I'm saying is that for me it's. I still drink it every single day.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:54:45]:
And if there's subtle changes, I don't notice it. Right.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:54:49]:
They're harder to notice.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:54:50]:
It's hard to notice. So I'm not stopping. I'm still doing it every single day as well. So that's one thing I do. Meditate in the morning every day. And it's combined that with gratitudes. There's so much things to look in life positively that I don't want anything negative bringing me down at all. So that's one thing.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:55:10]:
I have so many gadgets in my lap. Cab in my house too. That one thing that I do, I try to do on a. Whenever I'm home, I will get it in the hyperbaric chamber. That's one thing that I would do for sure. I still, even today's date, I'll still take cold showers. I start with the warm, a little bit like a lukewarm shower and then end up with a cold shower by the End.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:55:33]:
You're a full biohacker here.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:55:35]:
Yeah, I mean I got all kinds of things. I. I even got this charger unit that I use in my house once in a while. Again, I try all kinds of things.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:55:46]:
What type of charger unit? I'm curious.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:55:49]:
It's called Biocharger.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:55:51]:
I know it. Sure. I've had them on the podcast as well. Beautiful energy.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:55:55]:
Yeah, so I've used that part and I have not seen any benefits me personally, but my wife sees a lot of benefits herself, so she's been using it a lot more than I am using right now. But that's okay. I do have a masseuse that I do twice a week minimum. Amazing. He is. He's absolutely amazing for me. Yeah, I just go there, lie down and basically just. He knows exactly where things are going and he'll tell, he'll tell me, oh, you've been traveling a lot because your hip is out of alignment or this thing is not good and whatnot.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:56:28]:
Or he will check my colon says, yeah, stop eating foods that you cannot digest properly. So this masseuse is just a beyond. He knows. He knows a lot more about me than myself itself. I go to him at least twice a week. What else? I mean, I got so much stuff.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:56:48]:
So much fun. Yeah, but you've mentioned some great ones too. Yeah, but I think what I'm really hearing though from. Because you have such a very positive, optimistic sort of outlook as well. And I think what you were saying as well is that gratitude, practice and know that there's so many beautiful things there and not just to focus on the negative. So. So you're just spreading this beautiful energy and creating all these beautiful products to help people. So that's absolutely wonderful.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:57:10]:
Nayan, where can people follow and find out more what you are up to? Be it social media or website. Where do you want to direct people to?

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:57:18]:
So social media my personal is. But I don't post anything, so please don't follow me over there. All my posting I do at orowellness Auro Wellness. That's my Instagram, that's my team will take care of that one. But you can go to the website aurowellness.com a u r o wellness.com and subscribe to the newsletter because that's where I try to write at least one article a week. All my research that I do, we have so far we have published three articles in the last three years and we are funding more and more research. Everything that I do, I fund my own research. I don't get money from anybody else.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:58:02]:
So you support me, I'll support the research and we'll keep on bringing out more information for everybody to learn. Because people have taken care of me because I didn't invent anything. Right? I didn't invent the phone, but we enjoyed the luxury of the phone. We didn't invent the cars. We feel the luxury of the car. But I want those people to survive and thrive because they're going to create better products for me to make my life easier. And so I want to do the same thing for other people that cannot make good medicine. I want to do it for them.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:58:34]:
So everything that I do, I want to put back my time and energy into funding for the research so people can enjoy the benefits of it.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:58:43]:
Excellent. Thank you so much for coming on today. Nayan, it's been such a pleasure. Thank you to your audience for listening and tuning in as well. And yeah, when the next products are out or papers, it would be a pleasure to have you on for round two.

Dr. Nayan Patel [00:58:55]:
Thank you very much.

Claudia von Boeselager [00:58:57]:
Thank you for coming today.